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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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all right welcome fade to black Monday

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right today's Monday kicking off another

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week here on pay to black it is January

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downtown Burbank California and I would

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like to welcome everybody listening all

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around the world all across the United

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north and south far and near this is

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changer Network and K G RA the planet

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I'm your host Jimmy Church

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what is cracking everybody how you doing

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it's Monday yeah I was just saying right

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before the show on the bunker cam to all

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of you fade or knots out there how you

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doing man we burnt the candle at both

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ends and I just got to say Rita and I

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mean the amount of work that we have put

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in but we got we got through it and it's

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just made it to today somehow and made

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it to tonight it's all good man I'm

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bright-eyed and bushy-tailed but Wow

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and so that's it we've got a great week

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lined up on the show tonight psychic

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profiler Robby Thomas is here we're

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gonna talk about his most favorite and

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famous cases now we're gonna do that

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tonight

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yeah he's got a new series he's working

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on we're gonna talk about that and his

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new book is out the book is amazing and

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I finished it today so it's a great book

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tomorrow night Tracy Austin is here of

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the Tracy Austin show and she she does a

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little bit of everything but what's

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really cool about Tracy is she has had

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daylight all game changers and we're

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gonna go through that tomorrow and I

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the days of disclosure and so we're

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going to do that with her but her

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show that she covers and her TV show the

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award-winning

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let's talk paranormal covered everything

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and when I say you know cryptozoology

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you know so she's done it all so that's

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Tracy and she also has a new show over

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at kg RA and you can go and check that

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out so after listening to her tomorrow

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night's there you go you will see that

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kg RA has the absolute best over there

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and tomorrow night very excited to have

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Tracy on the show with us so that'll be

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tomorrow and then Wednesday night dr.

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witnesses to the usaps in the

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military-industrial complex so that will

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be Wednesday night yes there are a lot

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on disclosure and we will be doing that

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Wednesday night with Steven this is a

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much-anticipated show so I'll see

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everybody here Wednesday night Thursday

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another Fator night Jon Rappoport and

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the great news we have a weekend off we

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have a weekend off people's and we just

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okay there you go all right I got

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everything out of the way follow us on

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simple @j church radio hashtag f2b on

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twitter is the sandbox come and engage

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with all of the other fader nots hashtag

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f to be amazing conversations that go on

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and there I say it every show we burn

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through one to three thousand tweets per

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hang out I'm gonna let you know I do

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maybe five I say I definitely say good

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evening and good night so that's two

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I might have enough time to squeeze in a

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few I read them all you know or I try to

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at least but it is tough to keep up with

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it's it's really really really tough

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I'd be for me not for you guys you guys

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are paying attention all you have to do

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is listen to the show and engage in the

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conversations me I just I don't have

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that many brains I don't have that kind

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of brain power but come and hang out

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with this at Jay turrets radio hashtag

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questions hit me up right there look at

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Bob is in the house tonight Bob how you

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doing how you doing man Bob's going

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crazy all right Bob thank you

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man he's got that let's get a life James

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D agent live oil all right man the

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ancient life oil can say something about

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CBDs really quick ancient life oil I do

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I did well okay I I do the thousand

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milligram right and I'm thinking about

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toning it back I don't know why but

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there's something and I take it twice a

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day now there was something that happens

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with CBD now I want you to listen to me

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really quick oh look at this

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somebody got somebody got the new man of

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food-storage look at that that girl

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posting pictures yeah that's very very

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very cool and now she just said she ate

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the granola this morning it's emergency

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food so now you know it tastes good and

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now just put it all back you need that

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for that that's funny because I did the

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same thing you start eating that stuff

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it is so good that you just can't stop

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yet it's it's really good stuff thank

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you for that that girl okay where was I

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where was I I was just talking about Oh

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CBDs there is for about two or three

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there is a stunning clarity that happens

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with it I don't know there's there that

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it aligns it does something it aligns

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your neurons that's what it does well

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amongst other things

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but it snaps you straight it's really

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weird in a very very good way all right

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there you go I'm not saying this like

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taking smart pills but there's something

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that goes on there's pretty cool CBDs

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ancient life oil okay you can email

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throughout the show Jimmy and Jimmy

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Church radio.com that is very simple you

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can go ahead and do that there too of

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Twitter or the chat rooms over at

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Spreaker or k gra if you don't want to

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get it done there shoot me an email

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Jimmy and Jimmy Church radio.com there

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is some breaking news here this has been

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going on all weekend and when I had

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first heard about it I thought nah right

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nah this nah really

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Elon Musk is selling flamethrowers came

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through Tesla SpaceX electric vehicles

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batteries technology all of that Elon

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amongst other things right going

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old-school and is selling flamethrowers

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now I need that to be digested for a

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second Elon Musk is selling

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flamethrowers now for what you may ask

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and he's been joking it's for the zombie

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apocalypse he has sold over four million

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dollars worth of flamethrowers this

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weekend the boring company his company

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is selling a flamethrower for five

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hundred bucks plus tax and he's been

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tweeting all weekend these milestones

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that they're hitting he sold 1,000 units

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in the first three hours between the

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night of January 27th and the early

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hours of the 28th today's the 29th and

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this is all according to his

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weeds he sold another 2,000 during the

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day with that number reaching 7,000

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early this morning at that rate that

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they're selling it's pretty safe to

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assume that yes cleared the four million

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dollar mark or eight thousand

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flamethrowers and he says that he's

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selling a total of twenty thousand

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flamethrowers now I know you think I'm

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joking it for containing employees yeah

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exactly I must have watched the thing I

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don't know what's going on with this so

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have you bought one is anybody out there

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po neeta five hundred bucks for an Elon

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flamethrower it's is this the craziest

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thing ever it doesn't make sense the

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reason why it doesn't make sense we're

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talking about a technology guy

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technology corporation you go over to

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SpaceX right here in downtown LA go up

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to SpaceX to look at the building it is

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exactly what you think

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SpaceX should look like it's it's a

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monstrosity it's blocks wide and blocks

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long and it's white and polished and

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it's it's insane it's beautiful

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high technology right Tesla's look at

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them going down the road right electric

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cars high technology they they drive

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themselves right okay high tech Nam he's

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selling flamethrowers the exact opposite

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of technology there you go all right

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thank you guys for tweeting these there

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it is I'm gonna retweet that right now

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there it is a flamethrower it just

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doesn't make any sense does it

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I mean well before I go all conspiracy

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full conspiracy so that he knows

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something that we don't I mean what do

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you need a flamethrower for okay a

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couple of things really quick let's get

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nu mana and thank you thank you thank

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ten and thank you to everybody I mean I

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I signed so many t-shirts thank you it

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is very very very very cool our next

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event it's coming up it's coming up in

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less than two weeks now not this weekend

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but next weekend the conscious life Expo

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February 9th through the 12 2018 at the

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LAX Hilton tickets and info are over on

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all going to be there ok I'll be hosting

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the ancient aliens panel on Friday night

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I'm gonna host the party on Saturday

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night I'll be introducing people all

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weekend long hanging out we have our

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us ok now we've got some really cool

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thing

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we're gonna have at the booth too as

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well so all of you fade or not so you

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know what's going on this is gonna be

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one of the premier events of this year

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so come and hang out with us and then

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right after that oh I think this

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Thursday I'll confirm it with Rita right

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now on the air I think we're gonna have

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Sarina here on Thursday to stop by and

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tell everybody about the highlights for

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the conscious life Expo so she'll be

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here on Thursday right before Jon

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Rappoport okay and then June 1st through

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the 4th 2018 will be at contact in the

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desert in Indian Moyles Palm Springs at

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the Renaissance Resort & Spa

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now there are just I think two and a

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half days left for the early bird

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tickets on that okay so go and get the

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special pricing for contacting the

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desert into it now don't procrastinate

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here it is right here Bob just tweeted

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it out thank you Bob

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two days two days left on early bird you

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like this you like how I'm tweeting

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during the show which is a bad thing

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because I can't type and talk on early

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bird pricing okay there you go

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everybody contacting the desert June or

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June 1st through the 4th okay cut that

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up and there you go now with the the

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events and how things are gonna lay out

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posted up in a couple of days but you

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can go now to contact in the desert see

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what they have already booked and

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schedule a look at the venue it's again

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one of the premier events of the entire

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that's it conscious life Expo contact in

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the desert of course our fade to black

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get the game changer ok and now also you

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know what I'll make this announcement

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tomorrow because we got some other cool

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get this show crack and happy birthday

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to today

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new queen frontman Adam Lambert is only

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36 years old that's right he's still

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fronting Queen

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version of Adam Lambert when this whole

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Queen thing Bohemian Rhapsody and

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whatever whatever what what what

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contests what show was that America's

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Got Talent or whatever and he placed he

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didn't even win and he came in second

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that voice that did that Bohemian

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Rhapsody it's not the guy that's doing

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it today for Queen

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ah he's good you know he's good but he's

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not the he's not the one from American

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Idol

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can't remember so long ago that was like

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mm well was that 2008-2009 something

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like that but anyway he's only 36 years

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old and he's still running the band the

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tour the last World Tour ended in 2017

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on this day in history

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oh TD it happened it went down can you

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talk about a few East Eddie experiences

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how much do these creatures interact

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with and is it always benevolent that's

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from Chris martini when do you want me

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to talk about that Chris like right now

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right now and who are these creatures

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what do you mean by these creatures

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there's a few thing he said he is a trip

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if I get if I have time I'll get back to

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it there's a couple of things I want to

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talk about before I get out of here

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tonight but OTD on this day in history

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1964 Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece dr.

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Strangelove or how I learned to stop

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worrying and love the bomb opened in

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theaters and it opened to both critical

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and popular acclaim everybody loved the

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movie it freaked everybody out and he

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did it with humor and it is a

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masterpiece happen on this day in 1964

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and here's a fader fact for you people's

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body temperature drops when they watch

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videos of other people putting their

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hands into cold water and that is a

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fader fact Adam Lambert is okay but he's

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no Freddie Mercury yeah I know right I

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get that same kind of it right if you

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and that's for Brian let's see here it

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says Morgaine

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the [\h__\h] depois de Pollak de Pollock I

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can't read it you know I

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can't read is too small says if you grew

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up listening to Friday nothing else

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works and I get that too as well

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you know Paul Rodgers did a reasonable

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job with Queen that comes in from mark I

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like everybody that comments here

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because they understand music you

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understand it you know what who would

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have been a really really really good

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frontman for Queen now listen there

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would have been two choices for me but

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you know who'd have been really good Rob

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Halford Rob Halford would have just

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walked away with that I'm telling you it

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would have been amazing but you know who

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else would have been great for Queen

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Jeff Tate think about that for a second

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think about Jeff Tate singing Bohemian

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Rhapsody or Rob Rob Halford so that's

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that's that's where I'm going with that

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you know and then they could have got

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Jeff Tate you know Queens Reich Queen

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hey he's just just stepped right out of

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the box I'm just saying if I'm Queens

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manager I would have gone straight after

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either one of those guys and I wouldn't

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have stopped until they said yes yep

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you got my name right I did I got your

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name right Morgaine de [\h__\h] yeah

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that's cool it's a cool name

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now you guys agree with me on the Jeff

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tape thing all right I'll get back to

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you city here in a second I wanted to go

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a little bit old-school before we get to

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our tonight's guest Robbie Thomas

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because a couple of fundamental things

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need to be understood with everybody

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that listens to this show and those that

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will listen to this show and I will tell

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you that text is from that's pretty good

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is I went through some documentaries on

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on physics over the last two weeks on

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physics and quantum theory and quantum

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mechanics

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hardcore outside of our wheelhouse like

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you know scientific type documentaries

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on this and and one of the things that I

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don't even I don't even know if they

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realize some of the things that they

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present here because they're not

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following our community I'm pretty sure

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they're not you know we're talking about

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scientific documentaries done for the

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scientific community but they have

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brought up a couple of things that blow

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my mind that we talked about on this

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show and it forced me to think going

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fundamental so hear me out here although

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as fundamental as these things are

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because we talk about it so much in this

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show they just need to be in your 101

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right just need to be mere 101 you're in

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a conversation at a party you're hanging

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out with the people these are the

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fundamental things you need to know and

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understand right the fundamentals and

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it's the the main the main one is is

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this that we somehow somehow went from

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horse and buggies to the moon and to

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today in 70 years 70 that's a seven and

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a zero it is such a heavy thought right

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and so these leaps and Technology that

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have happened in over the last five

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thousand years are they're slow probably

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the most fundamental change that

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happened and most people will say it's

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the wheel some will say it's fire you

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know

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metallurgy Bryant agriculture that's a

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big one actually

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that's that's a big one to domesticating

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wheat was a big big deal that allowed no

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more hunting and gathering and now we

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were able to grow and domesticate wheat

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and and you didn't have to go and search

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for food we can actually feed ourselves

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and and so for that it was a big deal

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probably the biggest thing that happened

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was the Gutenberg press okay that was

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the dawning of of everything with

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communications and you didn't have to

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write everything out right you could

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just literally print and and and what

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happened from there happened from there

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so that was a big deal but those we are

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talking thousands of years apart you

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know these these changes and then all of

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a sudden if we take out what happened

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before 1900 1900 right you back up you

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go before 1900 and that that is a slow

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development

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it seemed fast it's fast in a million

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years but really we're talking about

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5,000 years but what happened between

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1900 and today you know it's 2,000 1717

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years but we went from the horse and

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buggy to the moon from 1900 to 1968 70

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years that is an insane leap and then

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you can actually cut that in half and or

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less than and I'm talking about 1947 now

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1947 was brought up so many times in

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these videos and documentaries that are

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watched over the last couple of weeks

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outside of our community and they keep

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referencing this year because something

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there were these breakthrough things

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that happened not only with with

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Einstein and a quantum theory and

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quantum mechanics and and of course the

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study of atoms and electricity and

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circuits and communication and flight

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and jet engines and and

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and aunt 1947 is this breakout here so

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if you really want to think about it it

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was 1947 to 1968 and now we are talking

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about 20 years two decades to decades

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1947 jet engines were just starting to

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happen still a lot of prop planes out

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there and that includes passenger planes

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that was all props props and we went

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from that to the moon in 20 years

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unbelievable unbelievable and when we

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talk about the electricity side of

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things and and science okay that that's

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all there that's that's solid and jet

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engines rocket engine attack now and and

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and to get to the moon in 20 or 20 years

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20 years we still haven't you know

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figured things out as a but anyway it is

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such a fundamental thing to stop and

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contemplate today we are actually

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dealing with today in the scientific

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community not our our community the

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scientific world is doing nothing but

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focusing on quantum mechanics quantum

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theory multi worlds parallel worlds and

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and the activation of things like

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teleportation they are this is the focus

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the the interface between our brain and

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a computer holy crap this is what they

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are working on now how did it happen

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what scares me with that and now I've

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got to leave I've got to get in Robby

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what really scares me with that

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ultimately is our education system and

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where are we going to come up with the

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brainpower to continue this there's a

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lot of bright kids out there there's a

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lot of issues with the education system

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too as well and how do we keep this

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moving forward how do we keep the bright

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is there we have to keep advancing right

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think about that

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fade to black our meals commuters our

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guests tonight Robbie Thomas oh yeah

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psychic profiler I'm gonna take a break

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right here when I come back it's gonna

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here Oh should be Church our guest

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Ravi Thomas psychic medium-- spiritual

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not well Robbie Thomas is a psychic

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medium psychic profiler and he helps

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internationally he helps families and

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police fight against crime while

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bringing solace to those who need it

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over many years of assisting in many

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murder or missing persons cases Robbie

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has been able to give great details to

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those devastating crimes or happenings

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which have led to finding lost people

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arrests being made of murder cases and

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bringing closure to families who

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desperately need it movies have also

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been a part of Robbie's life too as well

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he is either created or starred in death

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whisper in 2005 the Sally house and no 7

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and paradox in 2009 he's been featured

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on NBC CBS ABC as well as radio

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magazines around the world he has a new

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series and it's called psychic profile a

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psychic profiler that is currently in

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production little tongue-tied and

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tonight we are going to discuss his most

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important cases that are profiled in his

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new book psychic profiler the real deal

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true crime cases his website is Robbie

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Thomas dotnet now we'd like to welcome

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for the first time to fade to black

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Robbie Thomas Robbie good evening hey

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00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:07,170
thank you for having me hey Robbie it's

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00:36:11,089 --> 00:36:08,970
great to hear your voice and I know that

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00:36:12,799 --> 00:36:11,099
you're up in the great white north and

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00:36:15,890 --> 00:36:12,809
you were telling me today that your job

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00:36:20,829 --> 00:36:15,900
today as a psychic profiler is shoveling

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00:36:23,450 --> 00:36:20,839
snow so you know three times today and

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00:36:24,580 --> 00:36:23,460
you know it's kind of funny a couple of

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00:36:28,030 --> 00:36:24,590
weeks ago

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00:36:30,820 --> 00:36:28,040
my wife Rita said okay okay Rockstar

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00:36:38,170 --> 00:36:30,830
radio host TV personality today you

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clean the garage so funny and so there

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00:36:43,060 --> 00:36:40,580
you go we do what we got to do but

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00:36:45,190 --> 00:36:43,070
listen this is what we this is what we

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00:36:47,050 --> 00:36:45,200
do with every first-time guess we we

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00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:47,060
have the first-time guest

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00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:49,850
disclaimer so you're not gonna get it

728
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:51,050
the next time you're on the show but

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00:36:55,060 --> 00:36:52,850
you're gonna get it tonight and here it

730
00:36:57,250 --> 00:36:55,070
is it's you and me sitting on my couch

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00:36:59,170 --> 00:36:57,260
having a conversation as friends where

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00:37:01,090 --> 00:36:59,180
we start we start where we end we end

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00:37:05,020 --> 00:37:01,100
but we're gonna end his friends you

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00:37:09,630 --> 00:37:05,030
ready to go I'm ready now the the book

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00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:09,640
is is a tremendous read and my audience

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00:37:14,410 --> 00:37:13,010
expects me to say that because first off

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00:37:17,230 --> 00:37:14,420
we only have the best and brightest

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00:37:19,420 --> 00:37:17,240
guest on the show and and the you know

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00:37:23,260 --> 00:37:19,430
to get this far the book is always great

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00:37:26,020 --> 00:37:23,270
but yours it was a page-turner and I

741
00:37:28,870 --> 00:37:26,030
couldn't stop reading it and you take a

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00:37:31,030 --> 00:37:28,880
different approach in the book to other

743
00:37:33,310 --> 00:37:31,040
ones that I've read like this in the

744
00:37:36,430 --> 00:37:33,320
past they leave the audience to go and

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00:37:39,010 --> 00:37:36,440
find out about that for themselves but I

746
00:37:41,590 --> 00:37:39,020
really appreciated your writing style

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00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:41,600
here okay so I don't know if anybody

748
00:37:48,070 --> 00:37:44,800
said that to you yet but a really really

749
00:37:51,340 --> 00:37:48,080
great approach to the book but you thank

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00:37:54,430 --> 00:37:51,350
you but you open the book with something

751
00:37:57,130 --> 00:37:54,440
very very interesting in that you wanted

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00:38:00,340 --> 00:37:57,140
to be a cop that was that was yeah that

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00:38:03,610 --> 00:38:00,350
was your life's journey and and which is

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00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:03,620
great and I think a lot of us boys

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00:38:07,540 --> 00:38:06,050
growing up well you know and envision

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00:38:10,630 --> 00:38:07,550
that happening but that was your goal

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00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:10,640
and and and you went through that but

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00:38:18,550 --> 00:38:14,960
before we go there growing up did you

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00:38:22,540 --> 00:38:18,560
have psychic abilities or did you know

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00:38:26,410 --> 00:38:22,550
that things were going on or was it that

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00:38:29,710 --> 00:38:26,420
moment at the beginning of the book no

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00:38:33,010 --> 00:38:29,720
actually in my first book from 2003 I

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wrote how peer pressure and your peer

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section if they were found out as

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adolescence or a teenager you know I

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mean I

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crushed you know how people are so I

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described at an early age

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in I was around two or three I used to

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tell my mother am i adopted or do I have

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a sibling out there and my my mom would

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say he's doing it again and my father

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00:38:59,049 --> 00:38:56,299
would say get away from your mother come

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on in here leave mom alone well back in

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00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:02,119
the 60s in the Roman Catholic Church if

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a mother had a baby at a wedlock

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the church would take the baby and adopt

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that baby out so that happened to my

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mother in years later she met my father

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married him had me so here we are each

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two three and right through this and

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going through the motions and then to my

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teenage years and then one night 1994

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where my heart that ripped out as I went

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over to her mother's house like I always

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did and sitting in the morning having

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coffee and I told her you know it's

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really weird I had this paralysis of not

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being able to move last night in the

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Forsman were in my bedroom they were

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00:39:46,599 --> 00:39:44,269
explaining to me what was gonna take

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00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:46,609
place today and I explained to her

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today's your day it's really on Canyon

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and I'm compelled to tell you mom and

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00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:54,519
she turned she looked at me and she said

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go home and I'll watch - later this

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afternoon then I had that you ever get

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00:40:02,769 --> 00:40:01,160
that push-pull feeling where you you

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00:40:04,150 --> 00:40:02,779
know you got to do something right but

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you gotta leave cuz you've been asked

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her so I had that feeling going through

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me mm-hmm I get home and I'm sitting in

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the kitchen with my wife and my best

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00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:12,829
friends over at the time it was really

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weird because he never came over in the

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morning but he was there and the phone

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00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:19,099
rang it was my father on the other line

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and you screaming your mother your

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00:40:23,769 --> 00:40:21,529
mother

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so we raced over and I remember the

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gurney coming out of the house the EMT

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on top doing CPR and of course we went

813
00:40:35,380 --> 00:40:33,079
through the motions of the funeral

814
00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:35,390
what-have-you then my family pulls me

815
00:40:39,849 --> 00:40:38,089
aside was my mother's brother and sister

816
00:40:41,829 --> 00:40:39,859
they took me to the park sat me down

817
00:40:46,089 --> 00:40:41,839
they said you know all those years you

818
00:40:48,579 --> 00:40:46,099
were right and she did have another baby

819
00:40:51,099 --> 00:40:48,589
and her name is Mary and she's been

820
00:40:52,900 --> 00:40:51,109
looking for you so

821
00:40:54,519 --> 00:40:52,910
we went through all this back in 1994

822
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:54,529
Fox did a little special that's how we

823
00:40:58,900 --> 00:40:56,690
got reunited and what have you and this

824
00:41:00,910 --> 00:40:58,910
story was told back then and it was just

825
00:41:03,130 --> 00:41:00,920
you know looking back through my whole

826
00:41:05,499 --> 00:41:03,140
life growing up it's been that way with

827
00:41:07,749 --> 00:41:05,509
me in just certain subtle moments where

828
00:41:09,609 --> 00:41:07,759
like my father bought a home when I was

829
00:41:11,739 --> 00:41:09,619
a teenager to the Catholic school I was

830
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:11,749
going to go to the man who owned the

831
00:41:16,959 --> 00:41:15,410
home prior passed away in a fire so my

832
00:41:19,299 --> 00:41:16,969
father bought it we remodeled it that

833
00:41:21,819 --> 00:41:19,309
summer and then was getting into bed

834
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:21,829
I remember shutting the herb the light

835
00:41:27,039 --> 00:41:23,450
off looking out the window was a nice

836
00:41:28,449 --> 00:41:27,049
full moon hot August night I seen him he

837
00:41:30,249 --> 00:41:28,459
was standing right there full apparition

838
00:41:32,289 --> 00:41:30,259
so I pulled the covers over my head

839
00:41:34,690 --> 00:41:32,299
chorus scream mother comes running in

840
00:41:36,699 --> 00:41:34,700
he's gone and I learned through the

841
00:41:38,589 --> 00:41:36,709
interaction with that gentleman who kept

842
00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:38,599
coming back once in a while that his

843
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:40,400
three friends across the street mr.

844
00:41:44,249 --> 00:41:42,410
leech mr. waters and forgot the other

845
00:41:47,259 --> 00:41:44,259
gentleman's name hardy Hardy mr. Hardy

846
00:41:49,449 --> 00:41:47,269
we're gonna pass away and he told me

847
00:41:53,259 --> 00:41:49,459
exactly what was going on mr. leech was

848
00:41:55,959 --> 00:41:53,269
a very stout man very rigorous and I

849
00:41:59,079 --> 00:41:55,969
remember it was no time at all he was a

850
00:42:00,969 --> 00:41:59,089
very thin frail individual holding his

851
00:42:02,529 --> 00:42:00,979
pants as he walked across the street and

852
00:42:04,809 --> 00:42:02,539
we sit on the front porch with my father

853
00:42:06,609 --> 00:42:04,819
and talked to him and I was just gazing

854
00:42:07,089 --> 00:42:06,619
at this management I knew it was going

855
00:42:09,279 --> 00:42:07,099
to happen

856
00:42:11,620 --> 00:42:09,289
sure enough mr. leach passed away mr.

857
00:42:12,910 --> 00:42:11,630
waters died in a hunting accident and

858
00:42:15,489 --> 00:42:12,920
then mr. Hardy died of a heart attack

859
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:15,499
they're all trees those gentlemen across

860
00:42:20,259 --> 00:42:17,930
adjacent from my home were best friends

861
00:42:22,809 --> 00:42:20,269
with the gentleman who lived in the home

862
00:42:24,459 --> 00:42:22,819
that we took over so this kind of stuff

863
00:42:27,370 --> 00:42:24,469
happened with me all through my life and

864
00:42:31,569 --> 00:42:27,380
then as you say I decided I wanted to be

865
00:42:35,319 --> 00:42:31,579
a police officer the there's something

866
00:42:37,989 --> 00:42:35,329
going on here and when I said I'm saying

867
00:42:41,430 --> 00:42:37,999
in in our community in the world at

868
00:42:45,449 --> 00:42:41,440
large that we are starting to recognize

869
00:42:48,099 --> 00:42:45,459
that there is something very

870
00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:48,109
unbelievable that is going on this these

871
00:42:55,059 --> 00:42:52,089
abilities but the law enforcement they

872
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:55,069
were there some that weren't but in

873
00:43:01,209 --> 00:42:57,890
general is is reticent they don't want

874
00:43:03,819 --> 00:43:01,219
to give in are they starting to relax a

875
00:43:04,359 --> 00:43:03,829
little bit you they do come to you for

876
00:43:06,489 --> 00:43:04,369
sure

877
00:43:08,650 --> 00:43:06,499
but what do you think about law

878
00:43:13,210 --> 00:43:08,660
enforcement in general starting to

879
00:43:15,849 --> 00:43:13,220
embrace profilers like yourself it's

880
00:43:18,579 --> 00:43:15,859
been a long road for myself and you know

881
00:43:21,489 --> 00:43:18,589
looking back at the 28 years that from

882
00:43:23,739 --> 00:43:21,499
my very first case you know right up

883
00:43:26,380 --> 00:43:23,749
until recent the many cases this last

884
00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:26,390
past year being in Washington sitting

885
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:28,640
with the DSA office inside there talking

886
00:43:32,499 --> 00:43:30,650
to the head detectives and and all the

887
00:43:33,940 --> 00:43:32,509
rest that we there was NSA was there I

888
00:43:38,099 --> 00:43:33,950
couldn't believe they brought an NSA

889
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:38,109
individual in on this case it was a CIA

890
00:43:42,900 --> 00:43:40,249
individuals daughter who was murdered

891
00:43:46,089 --> 00:43:42,910
and you know I'm saying when all these

892
00:43:48,329 --> 00:43:46,099
people who are very prestigious and in

893
00:43:51,009 --> 00:43:48,339
the law enforcement agency in the field

894
00:43:53,739 --> 00:43:51,019
you know in the detective turn to me and

895
00:43:55,660 --> 00:43:53,749
he goes you know I'm a theist and I

896
00:43:56,589 --> 00:43:55,670
don't believe in this and he went

897
00:43:59,609 --> 00:43:56,599
through the story about how his mother

898
00:44:03,130 --> 00:43:59,619
died and that turned him to not believe

899
00:44:05,650 --> 00:44:03,140
so in the motions of investigating for

900
00:44:07,630 --> 00:44:05,660
the LAT for the few days and I told him

901
00:44:09,220 --> 00:44:07,640
exactly he handed me a map I got off I

902
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:09,230
got off the airport and Ronald Reagan

903
00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:11,210
Airport with a little late getting in

904
00:44:15,130 --> 00:44:13,730
there we get into the meeting and he

905
00:44:16,989 --> 00:44:15,140
goes through the motions of explaining

906
00:44:19,569 --> 00:44:16,999
certain things show me the perp show me

907
00:44:22,089 --> 00:44:19,579
certain things that were involved in the

908
00:44:23,140 --> 00:44:22,099
case and he goes you know we need to

909
00:44:24,729 --> 00:44:23,150
know where she is

910
00:44:28,450 --> 00:44:24,739
and he hands me a map of Maryland

911
00:44:31,059 --> 00:44:28,460
Virginia this big map and he goes find

912
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:31,069
her that's how he said and so the

913
00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:32,930
meeting concluded went back to my hotel

914
00:44:37,930 --> 00:44:34,730
room and you know it was a little

915
00:44:39,249 --> 00:44:37,940
perplexed a little bit you know upset

916
00:44:41,829 --> 00:44:39,259
because it just didn't go the way I

917
00:44:44,499 --> 00:44:41,839
figured it would go mm-hmm and so I

918
00:44:47,079 --> 00:44:44,509
grabbed a pen I circled on them on the

919
00:44:48,489 --> 00:44:47,089
map or a little road by Erin Andrews Air

920
00:44:51,069 --> 00:44:48,499
Force Base and that's your the map down

921
00:44:53,620 --> 00:44:51,079
the wife says you're not done I said

922
00:44:54,759 --> 00:44:53,630
yeah I'm done I'm fed up I just we

923
00:44:56,950 --> 00:44:54,769
should have the meeting should went

924
00:44:58,359 --> 00:44:56,960
different but that's how it is but

925
00:45:00,789 --> 00:44:58,369
spirit guides you in that kind of way

926
00:45:03,279 --> 00:45:00,799
the next morning I bring the map in as

927
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:03,289
we went to the office and he looked at

928
00:45:07,660 --> 00:45:05,930
it and he left read out me straight up

929
00:45:11,049 --> 00:45:07,670
and he goes you know I'm gonna tell you

930
00:45:13,720 --> 00:45:11,059
right now that's the road I was looking

931
00:45:15,999 --> 00:45:13,730
at out of all this area that's the road

932
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:16,009
because you don't know this but her

933
00:45:20,950 --> 00:45:18,290
phone pinged off that tower over there

934
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:20,960
and between this tower over here you

935
00:45:25,780 --> 00:45:23,930
didn't know that and then he gets in the

936
00:45:26,950 --> 00:45:25,790
car and he takes me and he goes how

937
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:26,960
about this area he drives all over

938
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:28,970
Maryland he's trying to confuse me and I

939
00:45:32,860 --> 00:45:31,130
said no not this isn't it I went back to

940
00:45:36,490 --> 00:45:32,870
the road and I said this is the road

941
00:45:39,130 --> 00:45:36,500
right here and I explained how she was

942
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:39,140
wrapped in a blanket but a hundred feet

943
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:42,530
or off the road into into this area and

944
00:45:46,090 --> 00:45:44,690
I said dumping ground I'm in Canada I'm

945
00:45:48,370 --> 00:45:46,100
writing all this down prior to getting

946
00:45:50,890 --> 00:45:48,380
there by the way mmm and I faxed all my

947
00:45:52,900 --> 00:45:50,900
material you drive down that road and

948
00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:52,910
that road isn't literally a dumping

949
00:45:57,100 --> 00:45:55,520
ground people dump mattresses everything

950
00:46:00,070 --> 00:45:57,110
in that little short little road area

951
00:46:04,870 --> 00:46:00,080
that's palpable highway 4 area right and

952
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:04,880
it was amazing and sure enough a year to

953
00:46:10,180 --> 00:46:07,490
the day I get a call from the mom she

954
00:46:12,490 --> 00:46:10,190
was we found a body and they said oh my

955
00:46:14,530 --> 00:46:12,500
gosh you know and I'm praying and going

956
00:46:16,870 --> 00:46:14,540
you know this is it she goes they're

957
00:46:19,690 --> 00:46:16,880
doing dental records now this is gonna

958
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:19,700
flip yep so I said ok and then I get a

959
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:22,250
phone call back she says a few days

960
00:46:28,180 --> 00:46:25,010
later she goes it's not her you found

961
00:46:29,740 --> 00:46:28,190
somebody else's baby oh my gosh so

962
00:46:31,690 --> 00:46:29,750
spirit led me to exactly what I was

963
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:31,700
doing and found somebody else's daughter

964
00:46:35,530 --> 00:46:33,770
that was wrapped in a blanket exactly

965
00:46:38,610 --> 00:46:35,540
how I said her feet from the yard from

966
00:46:44,110 --> 00:46:38,620
those from the road and what happened to

967
00:46:45,730 --> 00:46:44,120
her daughter her daughter was estranged

968
00:46:47,650 --> 00:46:45,740
and I and then I understand it because

969
00:46:49,900 --> 00:46:47,660
you know being Canadian looking at the

970
00:46:53,380 --> 00:46:49,910
American laws a little bit different she

971
00:46:55,780 --> 00:46:53,390
went missing in one County different

972
00:46:57,670 --> 00:46:55,790
than where her phone pinged in a

973
00:47:01,200 --> 00:46:57,680
different County so we can't arrest him

974
00:47:04,300 --> 00:47:01,210
for murder without a body we found a bag

975
00:47:08,380 --> 00:47:04,310
with certain information that's in that

976
00:47:11,470 --> 00:47:08,390
bag pertaining to that testing is going

977
00:47:14,020 --> 00:47:11,480
to cost a lot of money there's very

978
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:14,030
different variables in this case why

979
00:47:18,340 --> 00:47:16,970
they're not doing it and that I can't

980
00:47:20,830 --> 00:47:18,350
get into right now because it's very

981
00:47:23,590 --> 00:47:20,840
sticky a sticky situation and it's not

982
00:47:25,620 --> 00:47:23,600
omnis right it's still open no nope yes

983
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:25,630
absolutely

984
00:47:34,660 --> 00:47:31,410
Wow okay there there's there's another

985
00:47:39,770 --> 00:47:34,670
got to ask you this because in reading

986
00:47:42,650 --> 00:47:39,780
the book you are exposed to in a lot of

987
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:42,660
a lot of these cases things that you

988
00:47:46,130 --> 00:47:45,450
can't control you're seeing things or

989
00:47:49,460 --> 00:47:46,140
what have you

990
00:47:51,710 --> 00:47:49,470
some of it is pretty heavy

991
00:47:55,339 --> 00:47:51,720
okay we're dealing with very very very

992
00:47:57,950 --> 00:47:55,349
heavy subjects how do you turn around

993
00:48:00,920 --> 00:47:57,960
and confront the family or do you do

994
00:48:02,870 --> 00:48:00,930
this through law enforcement and and

995
00:48:09,289 --> 00:48:02,880
have them handle this because some of it

996
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:09,299
is is is is it's extreme it is it's um

997
00:48:14,740 --> 00:48:13,170
you like you say is extremely we handle

998
00:48:17,510 --> 00:48:14,750
stuff like this we sit with the families

999
00:48:19,490 --> 00:48:17,520
with law enforcement there's certain

1000
00:48:22,250 --> 00:48:19,500
things we kind of take out of that

1001
00:48:24,140 --> 00:48:22,260
perspective of them knowing we don't

1002
00:48:25,460 --> 00:48:24,150
want them running out down to the person

1003
00:48:27,410 --> 00:48:25,470
we don't want them running to the scene

1004
00:48:29,839 --> 00:48:27,420
right you know and stuff like this so we

1005
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:29,849
have to know how to be very delicate in

1006
00:48:35,240 --> 00:48:33,690
those situations I just come accustomed

1007
00:48:37,779 --> 00:48:35,250
to this over the years by listening and

1008
00:48:42,650 --> 00:48:37,789
learning from law enforcement themselves

1009
00:48:46,130 --> 00:48:42,660
so when we we look at one case the

1010
00:48:50,059 --> 00:48:46,140
Brewers the father's son who were

1011
00:48:50,859 --> 00:48:50,069
butchered and murdered really bad you

1012
00:48:53,839 --> 00:48:50,869
know

1013
00:48:56,660 --> 00:48:53,849
we had detective delay we were down

1014
00:48:59,870 --> 00:48:56,670
there and we were drawing up our plan

1015
00:49:01,609 --> 00:48:59,880
and he says you know we talked to the

1016
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:01,619
one major number one suspect

1017
00:49:06,380 --> 00:49:03,690
major suspect and all he wanted to do

1018
00:49:08,510 --> 00:49:06,390
was caught my driveway and he's got guns

1019
00:49:10,130 --> 00:49:08,520
we know what he wants and then we got

1020
00:49:12,799 --> 00:49:10,140
the other guy but he's in jail

1021
00:49:14,269 --> 00:49:12,809
for a different purpose but then there's

1022
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:14,279
the weakest link and I said let's hit

1023
00:49:18,859 --> 00:49:17,010
the weakest link I'll profile him so I

1024
00:49:22,789 --> 00:49:18,869
because how you gonna do this I say give

1025
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:22,799
me visual arts is what criminals will

1026
00:49:28,099 --> 00:49:26,010
look to and if you stun them you're

1027
00:49:30,859 --> 00:49:28,109
gonna see reaction body language

1028
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:30,869
everything so let's profile him on

1029
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:33,210
bristol board so I went and got bristol

1030
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:35,490
board I profiled him as an individual I

1031
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:38,010
profiled him during what was going on

1032
00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:41,520
and post and put it all down there black

1033
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:44,640
and white went down to his driveway in

1034
00:49:47,900 --> 00:49:45,210
that bar

1035
00:49:50,660 --> 00:49:47,910
and because he agreed so we went down

1036
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:50,670
that Bobby and I'm holding the recorder

1037
00:49:55,580 --> 00:49:54,090
under Bobby's face and then Andy's

1038
00:49:58,640 --> 00:49:55,590
getting a little upset because he's not

1039
00:50:00,170 --> 00:49:58,650
going what Andy wanted to do and we're

1040
00:50:02,690 --> 00:50:00,180
playing good cop/bad cop kind of

1041
00:50:06,170 --> 00:50:02,700
scenario mm-hmm so I said so he says you

1042
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:06,180
handle it so I did and you know I got a

1043
00:50:11,030 --> 00:50:07,890
little bit perplexed on what does kid

1044
00:50:13,130 --> 00:50:11,040
was doing and and so a few verbal words

1045
00:50:15,470 --> 00:50:13,140
came out and then I started on him and

1046
00:50:18,770 --> 00:50:15,480
he's realizing and then Andy goes you

1047
00:50:21,260 --> 00:50:18,780
know what he profiled you and he goes

1048
00:50:22,730 --> 00:50:21,270
read this and he opens up the SUV pulls

1049
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:22,740
out the bristol board puts it on the

1050
00:50:26,570 --> 00:50:25,050
back of it he says read that and the

1051
00:50:30,380 --> 00:50:26,580
kids stood there and you read everything

1052
00:50:32,330 --> 00:50:30,390
and he turned white when when I looked

1053
00:50:34,700 --> 00:50:32,340
at him and I had the recorder there and

1054
00:50:36,890 --> 00:50:34,710
I said I know you didn't do it but I

1055
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:36,900
know you were there you took part in

1056
00:50:41,630 --> 00:50:40,050
this and he is shaking his head yes but

1057
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:41,640
I wanted to Bert I want the words to

1058
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:43,410
come out of his mouth and I said you

1059
00:50:47,750 --> 00:50:44,610
know you could say it you could say it

1060
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:47,760
and you said it he said yes so we had it

1061
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:49,650
was all I'm he was stunned it was all on

1062
00:50:56,180 --> 00:50:51,810
the board and he and he said yeah so we

1063
00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:56,190
had my tape and we you know go back to

1064
00:51:03,350 --> 00:50:59,040
the sheriff and as you read in the book

1065
00:51:04,820 --> 00:51:03,360
and he says the actual sheriff and

1066
00:51:06,590 --> 00:51:04,830
Lieutenant nobody was in there there

1067
00:51:10,220 --> 00:51:06,600
were kind of crooked so they're out now

1068
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:10,230
they're not there in office anymore the

1069
00:51:15,950 --> 00:51:13,490
individual ronnie suspect number one I

1070
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:15,960
ate when I was on the phone went onto

1071
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:18,810
the phone with him for many times and as

1072
00:51:23,300 --> 00:51:21,450
I did I tried to get into his brain and

1073
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:23,310
tell him that the two people that you

1074
00:51:27,350 --> 00:51:25,410
just butchered and killed they're going

1075
00:51:29,150 --> 00:51:27,360
to be with you all the time you're gonna

1076
00:51:31,850 --> 00:51:29,160
be thanking them you're gonna be feeling

1077
00:51:34,340 --> 00:51:31,860
them they're gonna speak to you sure

1078
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:34,350
enough Ronny couldn't take it anymore

1079
00:51:39,580 --> 00:51:37,410
you went to see a psychiatrist amended

1080
00:51:42,410 --> 00:51:39,590
himself he gave a deathbed confession

1081
00:51:44,180 --> 00:51:42,420
saying that the gentlemen were speaking

1082
00:51:47,060 --> 00:51:44,190
to him and then after a while he

1083
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:47,070
committed suicide so that's a deathbed

1084
00:51:52,460 --> 00:51:50,970
confession admitted of what he did then

1085
00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:52,470
there was another character like I

1086
00:51:56,450 --> 00:51:54,720
mentioned and then he he committed

1087
00:51:59,130 --> 00:51:56,460
suicide he's gone we're waiting for

1088
00:52:01,920 --> 00:51:59,140
Bobby now to either

1089
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:01,930
we've been watching his social media he

1090
00:52:07,050 --> 00:52:05,650
went from being this nice young kid got

1091
00:52:09,900 --> 00:52:07,060
caught up in the wrong thing did the

1092
00:52:11,370 --> 00:52:09,910
wrong thing to not so dark and dingy on

1093
00:52:14,430 --> 00:52:11,380
the social media he's talking about

1094
00:52:16,290 --> 00:52:14,440
death and everything else yeah I just

1095
00:52:19,740 --> 00:52:16,300
don't like all cases I mean I stay with

1096
00:52:21,810 --> 00:52:19,750
them but like you know didn't detective

1097
00:52:23,730 --> 00:52:21,820
delay and so we're going through all

1098
00:52:25,950 --> 00:52:23,740
this and we're noticing all this so you

1099
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:25,960
know you look at how deep this case is

1100
00:52:32,060 --> 00:52:29,410
and how far we got into it I had guns

1101
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:32,070
pulled on me what we march down the

1102
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:35,170
actual footage where they said they

1103
00:52:39,420 --> 00:52:37,450
couldn't see the fire and and we

1104
00:52:41,700 --> 00:52:39,430
followed the roadway of course and II

1105
00:52:42,900 --> 00:52:41,710
wanted to measure up every inch so I had

1106
00:52:44,790 --> 00:52:42,910
to follow him the whole day to do what

1107
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:44,800
he did he's very thorough uh-huh when I

1108
00:52:48,210 --> 00:52:45,970
went down we went down through

1109
00:52:50,820 --> 00:52:48,220
everything standing by the bush line in

1110
00:52:52,890 --> 00:52:50,830
one suspect that was part of not the

1111
00:52:56,700 --> 00:52:52,900
murder but part of harboring these other

1112
00:52:58,950 --> 00:52:56,710
guys his mom who had a meth lab they

1113
00:53:01,320 --> 00:52:58,960
hadn't have their what she thought we

1114
00:53:03,330 --> 00:53:01,330
were encroaching on her land and she had

1115
00:53:06,390 --> 00:53:03,340
a shotgun I always sees Andy about 30

1116
00:53:07,590 --> 00:53:06,400
feet in front he goes I can pull my

1117
00:53:10,620 --> 00:53:07,600
weapon faster you could pull the trigger

1118
00:53:13,110 --> 00:53:10,630
and I'm standing with the daughter of

1119
00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:13,120
the gentleman who was murdered and we're

1120
00:53:17,430 --> 00:53:14,800
both looking at Andy and then when we

1121
00:53:19,230 --> 00:53:17,440
look where he's looking and enter the

1122
00:53:23,190 --> 00:53:19,240
bush it was a gun pointed right at me it

1123
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:23,200
was amazing um you know you get yourself

1124
00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:25,450
into these situations and you want to do

1125
00:53:28,380 --> 00:53:27,040
the proper thing for families because

1126
00:53:31,740 --> 00:53:28,390
they asked you and you answered the call

1127
00:53:34,370 --> 00:53:31,750
and you know you know your life is going

1128
00:53:38,670 --> 00:53:34,380
to be put online and that was just one

1129
00:53:41,550 --> 00:53:38,680
one time early was you talk about and

1130
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:41,560
we're gonna there's one case I want to

1131
00:53:46,110 --> 00:53:43,210
start off with when we come back which

1132
00:53:47,820 --> 00:53:46,120
is the shadow but okay so you know what

1133
00:53:50,460 --> 00:53:47,830
I'm talking about but we'll set it up

1134
00:53:54,420 --> 00:53:50,470
after the break the cloud the shadow

1135
00:53:56,390 --> 00:53:54,430
thing but how does this come to you

1136
00:54:00,510 --> 00:53:56,400
because you reference in the book of

1137
00:54:03,180 --> 00:54:00,520
where your your pen or you know things

1138
00:54:05,430 --> 00:54:03,190
are guided like the map right you drew

1139
00:54:09,210 --> 00:54:05,440
the circle on the map how does this come

1140
00:54:12,210 --> 00:54:09,220
to you are you asking for it or you know

1141
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:12,220
are you are you online

1142
00:54:17,130 --> 00:54:14,290
all the time if you don't I mean to the

1143
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:17,140
other side how does it come to you yeah

1144
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:19,570
you know it's a mixed breed if you will

1145
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:22,210
of what you just mentioned and I ask for

1146
00:54:29,010 --> 00:54:25,890
guidance I pray a lot I pray a lot and

1147
00:54:32,130 --> 00:54:29,020
sometimes like you say the map situation

1148
00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:32,140
is I was upset I was so upset I had

1149
00:54:35,910 --> 00:54:34,720
tunnel vision and I just circled the map

1150
00:54:40,410 --> 00:54:35,920
and I threw the map down it just

1151
00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:40,420
happened that fast so when you when you

1152
00:54:43,820 --> 00:54:42,880
ask for guidance who are you who are you

1153
00:54:47,180 --> 00:54:43,830
talking to

1154
00:54:49,710 --> 00:54:47,190
while there's as you read in the book

1155
00:54:52,170 --> 00:54:49,720
which we get into this other case I was

1156
00:54:54,349 --> 00:54:52,180
in Virginia filming a paranormal series

1157
00:54:56,820 --> 00:54:54,359
another television series that I'm

1158
00:54:58,710 --> 00:54:56,830
development with and I got a call from a

1159
00:55:01,320 --> 00:54:58,720
lady from the home town and I went back

1160
00:55:03,180 --> 00:55:01,330
to the ICU and I prayed over the main I

1161
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:03,190
prayed over him last Jesus to give me

1162
00:55:07,890 --> 00:55:05,290
help I don't know what I'm doing here I

1163
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:07,900
just drove 12 hours straight and I'm

1164
00:55:12,420 --> 00:55:10,450
shaking I'm scared and you know I need

1165
00:55:14,190 --> 00:55:12,430
guidance and there's a man who looked

1166
00:55:15,990 --> 00:55:14,200
like a machine he had everything out of

1167
00:55:17,849 --> 00:55:16,000
a side of his ribs he had tubes he had

1168
00:55:19,980 --> 00:55:17,859
tubes coming everywhere I'd never seen

1169
00:55:22,579 --> 00:55:19,990
anybody like that before and sure enough

1170
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:22,589
within 3 to 5 minutes with a neurologist

1171
00:55:29,099 --> 00:55:25,690
highly dedicated scientific individuals

1172
00:55:32,190 --> 00:55:29,109
in the IC unit waiting and I turned to

1173
00:55:37,020 --> 00:55:32,200
Julie and I said to her it's the wrong

1174
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:37,030
medicine it's brain swell and he's gonna

1175
00:55:39,500 --> 00:55:38,170
you know it's going to take time to

1176
00:55:41,550 --> 00:55:39,510
frame the heal they're killing him

1177
00:55:43,349 --> 00:55:41,560
because they declared him brain-dead

1178
00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:43,359
right and they wanted to unplug and plug

1179
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:46,510
him from life support so when they got

1180
00:55:51,750 --> 00:55:48,970
the chart they took a look they jumped

1181
00:55:55,130 --> 00:55:51,760
they unplugged him all the IVs came out

1182
00:55:56,339 --> 00:55:55,140
wrong medicine was was the call and

1183
00:55:58,109 --> 00:55:56,349
today

1184
00:56:02,040 --> 00:55:58,119
the man's home he's eating ice cream

1185
00:56:05,130 --> 00:56:02,050
sitting up talking the do you have to be

1186
00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:05,140
invited you know does law enforcement

1187
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:06,730
have to invite you in or the family

1188
00:56:13,710 --> 00:56:10,930
invites you in does it work that way or

1189
00:56:16,770 --> 00:56:13,720
do you sometimes insert yourself into a

1190
00:56:20,609 --> 00:56:16,780
case that you haven't been asked I've

1191
00:56:23,099 --> 00:56:20,619
inserted myself into one case where a

1192
00:56:25,940 --> 00:56:23,109
young girl two days prior to her going

1193
00:56:29,599 --> 00:56:25,950
missing I seen where she went

1194
00:56:32,300 --> 00:56:29,609
they drew up all the diagrams the tree

1195
00:56:35,329 --> 00:56:32,310
line the pile of rocks the Mennonite the

1196
00:56:36,770 --> 00:56:35,339
village or the lane Wayne what have you

1197
00:56:40,849 --> 00:56:36,780
in the wagon was a whole bunch of stuff

1198
00:56:43,190 --> 00:56:40,859
and I also I showed I did another show

1199
00:56:45,530 --> 00:56:43,200
in my hometown in the radio program

1200
00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:45,540
director and he says live on radio you

1201
00:56:50,180 --> 00:56:48,089
showed me all this stuff before they

1202
00:56:52,010 --> 00:56:50,190
started investigating that and he goes I

1203
00:56:54,859 --> 00:56:52,020
was a skeptic but now I'm a believer and

1204
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:54,869
so all that drawings went to the family

1205
00:56:59,390 --> 00:56:57,810
I inserted myself into that case they

1206
00:57:01,790 --> 00:56:59,400
were just looking for a woman and I

1207
00:57:05,240 --> 00:57:01,800
profiled a man and a woman which it

1208
00:57:07,450 --> 00:57:05,250
turned out it was a man and a woman they

1209
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:07,460
they planted me in the mother's house

1210
00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:10,770
because the the husband side of the

1211
00:57:15,620 --> 00:57:12,720
family who I was inserting myself with

1212
00:57:18,349 --> 00:57:15,630
to help the there he was estranged from

1213
00:57:20,930 --> 00:57:18,359
from his ex-wife and it was it was a

1214
00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:20,940
really a cuckoo case have you ever I

1215
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:23,520
know this may sound a little nuts maybe

1216
00:57:28,099 --> 00:57:25,650
not have you ever had law enforcement

1217
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:28,109
come back to you going okay you know too

1218
00:57:39,500 --> 00:57:32,130
much about this case you we're taking

1219
00:57:42,140 --> 00:57:39,510
you in yeah oh that's funny

1220
00:57:46,910 --> 00:57:42,150
there was a case out of Mount Rainer

1221
00:57:50,059 --> 00:57:46,920
near Boston and my good friend is works

1222
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:50,069
with the DOE Network and Tommy van Tosi

1223
00:57:55,550 --> 00:57:53,130
and so was his brother-in-law's daughter

1224
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:55,560
that got murdered so he didn't tell me

1225
00:57:57,530 --> 00:57:55,890
anything

1226
00:57:59,240 --> 00:57:57,540
Tommy's a straight-up guy won't say

1227
00:58:01,160 --> 00:57:59,250
nothing so he didn't tell me anything

1228
00:58:04,550 --> 00:58:01,170
but he introduced me to the detective

1229
00:58:05,930 --> 00:58:04,560
detective said you know if anything of

1230
00:58:07,069 --> 00:58:05,940
this here is viable because the only

1231
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:07,079
reason you're coming here is because of

1232
00:58:09,079 --> 00:58:07,650
Tommy

1233
00:58:11,359 --> 00:58:09,089
he said I'll call you back in five

1234
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:11,369
minutes so I did all my drawings and

1235
00:58:15,079 --> 00:58:13,050
everything and I sent it in to him and

1236
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:15,089
sure enough I thought okay he's gonna

1237
00:58:19,460 --> 00:58:17,010
call me he called me back and he was

1238
00:58:22,069 --> 00:58:19,470
really right irate about things he goes

1239
00:58:23,630 --> 00:58:22,079
first off he said how much information

1240
00:58:25,490 --> 00:58:23,640
they tell you nothing tell me anything

1241
00:58:27,230 --> 00:58:25,500
and he goes how would you know about

1242
00:58:29,420 --> 00:58:27,240
this how would you know I had the guy in

1243
00:58:33,079 --> 00:58:29,430
jail now you know it was like yeah it

1244
00:58:37,130 --> 00:58:33,089
was a pretty tender moment yeah I mean

1245
00:58:38,279 --> 00:58:37,140
you're ready to confess right that's

1246
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:38,289
yeah yeah

1247
00:58:45,900 --> 00:58:41,410
that's pretty interesting because it it

1248
00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:45,910
has to because it's it's sensational

1249
00:58:51,269 --> 00:58:48,400
right it's supernatural it's paranormal

1250
00:58:53,309 --> 00:58:51,279
it's all of these aspects and to a

1251
00:58:55,289 --> 00:58:53,319
straight-laced law enforcement guide

1252
00:58:57,900 --> 00:58:55,299
that is just you know about the facts

1253
00:58:59,429 --> 00:58:57,910
and and you're doing this kind of stuff

1254
00:59:02,219 --> 00:58:59,439
you're the you're who they're looking

1255
00:59:04,049 --> 00:59:02,229
for right you know what yeah that's

1256
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:04,059
that's that's pretty interesting let's

1257
00:59:08,909 --> 00:59:06,130
take a break right here Robbie and when

1258
00:59:10,859 --> 00:59:08,919
we come back let's talk about the case

1259
00:59:14,039 --> 00:59:10,869
with your buddy and the apartment

1260
00:59:16,380 --> 00:59:14,049
building and that that that's

1261
00:59:19,019 --> 00:59:16,390
unbelievable and that's you know what's

1262
00:59:21,329 --> 00:59:19,029
funny that's early on too as well Robbie

1263
00:59:23,219 --> 00:59:21,339
that was a sign of things to come

1264
00:59:26,609 --> 00:59:23,229
this is fade to black our guest tonight

1265
00:59:28,469 --> 00:59:26,619
psychic profiler robbie thomas spade to

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block on the game changer network in kg

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ra the planet I'm yours to meet Church

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00:59:47,900 --> 00:59:32,050
I'll be right back stay with us

1269
00:59:51,900 --> 00:59:49,770
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is February 9th through the 12th right

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here in Los Angeles now Robbie this this

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guy was this your your first case or I

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don't know if I'm wording that right but

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it's it seems that way in the book

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because it caught you by surprise so

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before we get into it was was this one

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of the first cases for you yeah it was

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1990 it's and it's a doozy too that's

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had whoo man it got dark really really

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quick now I'm gonna set this up and I'm

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gonna let you run with this

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Robbie's hanging out with a friend of

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his that manages an apartment building

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that Robbie eventually you moved into

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right that's correct

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okay so Robbie eventually you know this

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is a friend of his and he's managing

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this building and you guys are out front

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just you know doing whatever you're

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hanging out and you're talking and and

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doing your thing and you see somebody

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walking in the distance and and tell us

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tell us what you know take it from there

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it's pretty interesting yeah I was just

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chewing the rag wood with Greg and

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enjoying the day and I noticed this

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individual over his shoulder but it was

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different because when I see people who

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were really bad or if I'm around people

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who are bad there's a black essence

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around them so this individual had a

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shroud it was huge it was black it was

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around him completely and I watched him

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walk in as I kept my eyes off of Greg

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onto Jesse aka Jesse and he walked into

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the apartment building guy turned left

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over a shoulder and learned back he goes

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that's Jesse you want to go and meet him

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and by then Jesse's already inside the

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apartment building now picture this he's

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a five foot nothing miniature Eddie Van

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Halen he looked exactly to a tee

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like Eddie Van Halen belong here right

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everything right so we make it up into

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his apartment we're sitting there

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Greg's introducing me and this is the

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time I'm going through to be a police

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officer too so I'm a straightforward guy

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my line of questioning it might be a

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little bit blunt at times but that's

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just my nature and it took over at that

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time and so he caught on the way I was

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addressing him he was kind of not King

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to me in the beginning anyways his

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girlfriend was pregnant she was walking

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back and forth from the little dining

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room area if you picture an l-shape he

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goes el-sheikh from the little dining

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room area into the living room area

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she's going back and forth back and

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forth and she's getting nervous cuz it's

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getting heated up inside there and then

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he turns to me and he goes are you

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effing hot and I didn't catch on what he

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meant by that and you go stand up he

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does are you effing hot and I what and

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he lifts up my shirt and he starts

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patting me down and looking for and then

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again I caught on he was looking for a

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wire he thought you know and at the time

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which I did not know which you mentioned

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a surprise he was going through court

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over this murder of mark Campbell a

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little boy who came from Quebec Canada

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with his family to Sonya my hometown and

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he was working in a gas station a little

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cubicle no more than six by six

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Plexiglas and so he pushes me down

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because you want to know the story and

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he starts explaining let me just go

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through let me jump in for a second here

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Ronny because this is it's so

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interesting how this unravels I want to

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back up really quickly yeah what brought

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you to Greg this almost sounds like

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divine intervention I mean I gotta tell

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you I don't run into murder cases every

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day if you know what I mean

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but son right brought you to Greg that

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allowed you to see Jesse at that moment

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what brought you to Greg

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I just knew Greg from along for a long

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time with the high school together

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we were friends his wife Michelle I've

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known her since age three so we know

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each other very well and like you say I

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was gonna move into the apartment

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building and the back unit over there to

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the right and Jesse was going left up to

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the third floor so that's where how I

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was in that parking lot speaking to Greg

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that during that day yeah it's like

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divine intervention I mean it what if it

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was the next day right or 20 minutes

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later you wouldn't have seen Jess yeah

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that's right exactly and it I know it

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sounds very peculiar and then there's

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another case in the book to we're going

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to touch upon but I mean right place the

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right time you know what I'm saying

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here we are we're going through the

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motions and this guy just he blew off he

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just caught on too quick and these guys

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that's how they are they're quick and

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they're conniving they're you know

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they're cons they just know what what to

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look for right and so and it was it was

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amazing sitting there and then going

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through the motions and him telling up

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you know how they helped if you can

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picture your hand hold the sideways you

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have your thumb and your if your finger

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pointed like a gun sideways that's how

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he showed me how they held the gun and

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the story goes is that they were ripping

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off a car stereo across from the gas

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station in the townhomes weren't getting

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the car stereo out he said Thomas wanted

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to go and rob the gas station so Jesse

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and Thomas went over to the gas station

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Thomas pulls out the gun and he goes you

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should have seen I mean they're popping

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them like this and he goes he's hopping

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like a rabbit and that's how he was

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explaining it to me it was like he had

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no remorse he just had a big smirk on

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his face and it was just ungodly the way

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he was doing it and then he asked us to

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stand up by then Greg's already at the

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door he's freaking out he's gay

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now the apartment jesse grabs my shirt

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and pulls me in by the shoulder but got

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my shirt he goes the county buddy I'm

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gonna kill you

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and he pushing out the door you know he

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must have realized I'm gonna go and talk

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to them so I went and went down and

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talked to the detectives and the

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detectives say you have to go back and

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befriend him again and wear wire this

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time because this is where I learned now

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that they're in court with him over this

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murder of that little boy that came from

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Quebec and I said are you kidding me

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there's no way in going back he made me

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and Yuri threatened me there's no way

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I'm going back and during that time

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frame to when I was with Jesse he

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explained and he's gonna get off because

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of an alibi and technicality this type

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of thing sure enough exactly what he

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told me in that apartment is what

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happened in court they had people

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pulling for them saying they were in a

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different City at the time and and he

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explained where he ran and I knew

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everything and it's just I'm not gonna

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go back and wear a wire and you know I

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tell people who they feel they had this

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type of gift dude never put yourself in

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a situation like I did that was the

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wrong way of doing things and I just

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that's how it evolved that was my first

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case this is not to make light of this

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but you look like a cop right so going

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back I mean that's how we made you the

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first time you look like some kind of

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confidential and for you you look like

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you know undercover and and he went

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straight there going back to the well a

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second time wearing a wire you know

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looking like you do he probably that may

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not have ended well

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no not at all and you know I'm glad you

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said you brought that up because Thomas

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Thomas cook he murdered again shortly

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afterwards he saran wrapped his

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girlfriend and watched her she couldn't

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breathe and he watched her die in front

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of them taking she couldn't breathe

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could the Samsa ran off and he gave

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himself up he's in prison now but Jessie

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he's somewhere at West in Canada Wow

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and yeah are you going to stay with this

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01:12:21,570 --> 01:12:18,600
case is there anything that you can do

1542
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no because once you get you know

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acquitted on something like that there's

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no way they can go back to get him from

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01:12:29,430 --> 01:12:26,610
murder

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you know it's funny because where I used

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to go work out in the gym his brother

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used to be one of the guys trainers in

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01:12:36,300 --> 01:12:34,930
there and I used to bring it up to him

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all the time right to his face but he

1551
01:12:40,770 --> 01:12:38,050
didn't like it you know I don't like

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01:12:44,490 --> 01:12:40,780
criminals I don't and I'm scared I'm not

1553
01:12:47,580 --> 01:12:44,500
scared of anybody so I mean you know

1554
01:12:49,290 --> 01:12:47,590
it's just something like that it's he'll

1555
01:12:53,610 --> 01:12:49,300
get his karma is gonna get that so long

1556
01:12:56,940 --> 01:12:53,620
and now let's let's let's let's jump up

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01:12:59,990 --> 01:12:56,950
in the timeline here I'll leave it up to

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01:13:04,140 --> 01:13:00,000
you but what I found interesting is that

1559
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a bunch of these cases here are all

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01:13:12,180 --> 01:13:07,630
recent you know we're talking about 2016

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01:13:16,590 --> 01:13:12,190
2017 that happened on a book tour for

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you and in front of a large amount of

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audiences or large audiences but also

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with you know US marshals and and and so

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01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:25,950
forth that that we're all present as

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01:13:33,330 --> 01:13:31,210
these unraveled yeah again I think it's

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almost divine intervention that is going

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01:13:38,100 --> 01:13:35,500
on here to have certain things happen

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01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:38,110
with a with the audience with people in

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01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:40,330
the audience with the detectives and and

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01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:43,210
marshals on stage with you written

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materials envelopes you know what I'm

1573
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:47,260
talking about

1574
01:13:53,330 --> 01:13:50,530
all of this all of this goes down and it

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01:13:56,610 --> 01:13:53,340
goes down the right way but it always

1576
01:13:59,580 --> 01:13:56,620
it's it's so accurate it's a

1577
01:14:02,880 --> 01:13:59,590
mind-blowing read and this is this is

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01:14:04,590 --> 01:14:02,890
all recent history and documented yeah

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01:14:07,470 --> 01:14:04,600
that's it that's the best thing see I

1580
01:14:10,190 --> 01:14:07,480
figured this out for years how could I

1581
01:14:13,050 --> 01:14:10,200
bring something forward that would be

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01:14:14,850 --> 01:14:13,060
instrumental to help other individuals

1583
01:14:17,130 --> 01:14:14,860
and law enforcement at the same time so

1584
01:14:20,550 --> 01:14:17,140
read between the lines in the book it's

1585
01:14:22,290 --> 01:14:20,560
showing you how to do things proper it's

1586
01:14:23,790 --> 01:14:22,300
just not here's the story there's

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01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:23,800
everything in between so I'm thinking

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double fold here and in doing that it

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01:14:30,339 --> 01:14:28,010
was a psychic justice to

1590
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:30,349
2010 that's when I did the psychic

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01:14:37,359 --> 01:14:33,489
justice tour I thought what could I do

1592
01:14:39,490 --> 01:14:37,369
to help families on a vast scale that no

1593
01:14:42,580 --> 01:14:39,500
one's ever done before but in front of

1594
01:14:45,129 --> 01:14:42,590
an audience and so we came up with the

1595
01:14:47,919 --> 01:14:45,139
idea of traveling through North America

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start out at my home town go to Toronto

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Canada cut across go to Iowa Indiana

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Kentucky Ohio hit all these places and

1599
01:15:01,029 --> 01:14:58,159
do all these instrumental moments with

1600
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:01,039
with law enforcement families so the one

1601
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:04,130
with the US Marshals in Ohio it was a

1602
01:15:07,149 --> 01:15:06,050
gentleman he sent me a photograph and

1603
01:15:08,319 --> 01:15:07,159
all I had with the back of the home

1604
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:08,329
there was no window I couldn't see no

1605
01:15:12,490 --> 01:15:10,610
windows doors or nothing and the fire

1606
01:15:14,919 --> 01:15:12,500
bomb expert said to me I need you to

1607
01:15:16,419 --> 01:15:14,929
tell me what happened in this home and

1608
01:15:18,700 --> 01:15:16,429
I'm on the phone just looking at a photo

1609
01:15:21,129 --> 01:15:18,710
on the Internet

1610
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:21,139
and I started explaining what happened I

1611
01:15:25,870 --> 01:15:24,170
said I seem shot in the arm and he got

1612
01:15:27,700 --> 01:15:25,880
quiet I said but there's a door to the

1613
01:15:31,029 --> 01:15:27,710
other side and I go I can't breathe it's

1614
01:15:33,819 --> 01:15:31,039
like my throat just shuts off and he

1615
01:15:36,069 --> 01:15:33,829
stopped me he goes he turned to come out

1616
01:15:37,990 --> 01:15:36,079
the man shot hit him in the arm

1617
01:15:40,810 --> 01:15:38,000
he turned to go back in but when you go

1618
01:15:43,209 --> 01:15:40,820
back into the fire your your your

1619
01:15:44,919 --> 01:15:43,219
esophagus and your throat just seized up

1620
01:15:50,109 --> 01:15:44,929
you can't breathe so that's what

1621
01:15:53,109 --> 01:15:50,119
happened to Robert get down to Ohio the

1622
01:15:55,330 --> 01:15:53,119
family's there it's a vast amount of

1623
01:15:57,430 --> 01:15:55,340
people I mean there had been more than

1624
01:15:59,950 --> 01:15:57,440
just family the room was packed was

1625
01:16:03,399 --> 01:15:59,960
wall-to-wall people and I'm holding this

1626
01:16:05,620 --> 01:16:03,409
meeting and people are there and the US

1627
01:16:08,470 --> 01:16:05,630
Marshal fella he brings boxes of

1628
01:16:10,899 --> 01:16:08,480
material on a trolley cart thing sitting

1629
01:16:13,779 --> 01:16:10,909
to the left of me

1630
01:16:17,020 --> 01:16:13,789
I'm explaining who I am what I do that

1631
01:16:18,759 --> 01:16:17,030
night before this all took place there

1632
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:18,769
was an investigator that was working

1633
01:16:24,939 --> 01:16:23,570
with the US Marshal and I was staying at

1634
01:16:27,339 --> 01:16:24,949
his house and I wrote down a bunch of

1635
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:27,349
information and I said this is what I

1636
01:16:31,629 --> 01:16:29,570
want you to put your pocket and hold

1637
01:16:34,060 --> 01:16:31,639
this so the next day when I start

1638
01:16:36,069 --> 01:16:34,070
bringing it up you're gonna see that US

1639
01:16:37,149 --> 01:16:36,079
Marshals are gonna say yes this is true

1640
01:16:38,830 --> 01:16:37,159
I want you to pull that stuff out of

1641
01:16:40,750 --> 01:16:38,840
your pocket show them that I knew before

1642
01:16:41,350 --> 01:16:40,760
I even told them when this comes early

1643
01:16:44,229 --> 01:16:41,360
or

1644
01:16:46,330 --> 01:16:44,239
be really quick I don't mean to be rude

1645
01:16:49,990 --> 01:16:46,340
but when this comes to you at that

1646
01:16:52,510 --> 01:16:50,000
moment when you're writing this is do

1647
01:16:55,620 --> 01:16:52,520
you have a signal is there something

1648
01:16:58,629 --> 01:16:55,630
that it reminds me of The Shining right

1649
01:17:03,189 --> 01:16:58,639
right you know he always smelled oranges

1650
01:17:04,810 --> 01:17:03,199
right before the event for you is there

1651
01:17:07,959 --> 01:17:04,820
something that that happens right before

1652
01:17:10,750 --> 01:17:07,969
you start writing yeah like I said I get

1653
01:17:13,570 --> 01:17:10,760
that tunnel vision and like so focused

1654
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:13,580
no matter what is around me it doesn't

1655
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:15,530
bother me it's because I'm centered

1656
01:17:20,919 --> 01:17:18,290
focused on what's coming in or what I

1657
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:20,929
see it's Plato like a movie and I see it

1658
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:24,050
comes in and flashes and like the one

1659
01:17:28,090 --> 01:17:25,850
case where Joe is a boy in the murder

1660
01:17:31,180 --> 01:17:28,100
that will talk about to another one it's

1661
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:31,190
it's like central focus I know in it I'm

1662
01:17:35,890 --> 01:17:32,810
as therefore because we're discussing

1663
01:17:37,899 --> 01:17:35,900
this topic this matter of moment so I

1664
01:17:40,270 --> 01:17:37,909
have to be centralized at what I'm doing

1665
01:17:42,370 --> 01:17:40,280
so I'm doing the automatic hand drawing

1666
01:17:45,010 --> 01:17:42,380
I'm writing down my thoughts it's all

1667
01:17:48,570 --> 01:17:45,020
going on paper and I wrote to him I said

1668
01:17:50,859 --> 01:17:48,580
you know insurance policy there's

1669
01:17:52,950 --> 01:17:50,869
somebody got pay big time on something

1670
01:17:54,939 --> 01:17:52,960
that wasn't worth the amount of money

1671
01:17:57,250 --> 01:17:54,949
they got that but there was another

1672
01:17:59,260 --> 01:17:57,260
insurance policy and somebody bought a

1673
01:18:00,729 --> 01:17:59,270
home in a different state I'm writing

1674
01:18:03,669 --> 01:18:00,739
all this stuff down and you don't know

1675
01:18:05,919 --> 01:18:03,679
as you're writing do you sometimes I

1676
01:18:08,500 --> 01:18:05,929
don't sometimes I don't right right it

1677
01:18:10,959 --> 01:18:08,510
just comes out yeah comes up and other

1678
01:18:12,879 --> 01:18:10,969
times I do and I just question it I say

1679
01:18:15,220 --> 01:18:12,889
why would I say that it's got to be

1680
01:18:17,830 --> 01:18:15,230
tangible it has to be real because it's

1681
01:18:20,470 --> 01:18:17,840
going down on paper so we get in there

1682
01:18:23,709 --> 01:18:20,480
and I'm talking about all this what I

1683
01:18:25,510 --> 01:18:23,719
just discussed you and me and Dean the

1684
01:18:27,340 --> 01:18:25,520
marshal pulls the lid off one of the

1685
01:18:30,070 --> 01:18:27,350
boxes and he pulls out a file he goes

1686
01:18:32,830 --> 01:18:30,080
you're kidding me you know it's ray here

1687
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:32,840
he says nobody knew that and then and

1688
01:18:37,270 --> 01:18:35,570
then rotten and Roger pulls out a piece

1689
01:18:38,890 --> 01:18:37,280
of paper and he goes it's right here you

1690
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:38,900
wrote it down on last night and he

1691
01:18:42,580 --> 01:18:40,730
showed him so I had to convince him that

1692
01:18:44,350 --> 01:18:42,590
we were on the right track that was my

1693
01:18:48,070 --> 01:18:44,360
method of doing this so that would know

1694
01:18:50,290 --> 01:18:48,080
that we're doing this proper now I got

1695
01:18:54,010 --> 01:18:50,300
that out I'm looking down the aisle and

1696
01:18:55,149 --> 01:18:54,020
I noticed this Punk and I had my eye on

1697
01:18:57,879 --> 01:18:55,159
him a little bit but

1698
01:19:00,640 --> 01:18:57,889
had this phone and exceed a light on it

1699
01:19:02,979 --> 01:19:00,650
he had it open I knew who was on the

1700
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:02,989
other landline was the guilty party and

1701
01:19:07,689 --> 01:19:05,449
this kid infiltrated this meeting had

1702
01:19:09,149 --> 01:19:07,699
the phone open and I walked right up to

1703
01:19:13,390 --> 01:19:09,159
him and I said oh you get that you know

1704
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:13,400
explicit words I used and I said you got

1705
01:19:20,529 --> 01:19:15,650
that open in my meeting and he shut it

1706
01:19:22,569 --> 01:19:20,539
any luck so as he did I started

1707
01:19:27,069 --> 01:19:22,579
explaining more now that he was gone I

1708
01:19:29,229 --> 01:19:27,079
said you know I see the gun but I see it

1709
01:19:31,839 --> 01:19:29,239
in the wall it's been like how many

1710
01:19:33,969 --> 01:19:31,849
toward the wall put the wall and did it

1711
01:19:35,919 --> 01:19:33,979
like at that moment then there's a gasp

1712
01:19:38,169 --> 01:19:35,929
in the room the one-lane he stands up

1713
01:19:39,939 --> 01:19:38,179
she was oh my gosh when he was killed

1714
01:19:42,879 --> 01:19:39,949
and everything went down that night his

1715
01:19:44,709 --> 01:19:42,889
estranged wife had people come over

1716
01:19:47,770 --> 01:19:44,719
house tear up the wall to put new

1717
01:19:49,719 --> 01:19:47,780
drywall up in the middle of night and

1718
01:19:51,399 --> 01:19:49,729
that's where you know so the u.s.

1719
01:19:55,060 --> 01:19:51,409
marshals are trying to get that home and

1720
01:19:56,890 --> 01:19:55,070
the gun and that's in the wall and

1721
01:20:00,189 --> 01:19:56,900
everything just fit in the perfect place

1722
01:20:02,259 --> 01:20:00,199
and the assurance and and what have you

1723
01:20:06,310 --> 01:20:02,269
how it went down the guys name I

1724
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:06,320
mentioned the guy's name then come full

1725
01:20:12,909 --> 01:20:10,010
circle there's an inmate it wants to get

1726
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:12,919
off drugs he wants help and he's been

1727
01:20:19,029 --> 01:20:16,130
talking to this one guy who said he did

1728
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:19,039
this and so in in the book everybody can

1729
01:20:22,199 --> 01:20:20,449
read I want to go into much of the story

1730
01:20:25,060 --> 01:20:22,209
because I'm gonna ruin it for everybody

1731
01:20:26,770 --> 01:20:25,070
but that you seen it and that's the gist

1732
01:20:28,839 --> 01:20:26,780
of the whole story it just it broke

1733
01:20:32,529 --> 01:20:28,849
right down everything to a tee how it

1734
01:20:35,169 --> 01:20:32,539
all played out on paper as you say like

1735
01:20:38,679 --> 01:20:35,179
smelling oranges or whatever it's kind

1736
01:20:41,469 --> 01:20:38,689
of tunnel vision the that point in the

1737
01:20:47,379 --> 01:20:41,479
book and by the way Robbie doesn't hold

1738
01:20:49,359 --> 01:20:47,389
back with his language in the book again

1739
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:49,369
that style of writing I know that's

1740
01:20:54,429 --> 01:20:51,050
exactly how it went down

1741
01:20:58,209 --> 01:20:54,439
but what I want you to comment on this

1742
01:21:00,549 --> 01:20:58,219
because when you when you fingered you

1743
01:21:03,429 --> 01:21:00,559
call him a punk when you fingered him

1744
01:21:04,919 --> 01:21:03,439
he's sitting on the inside aisle if my

1745
01:21:06,919 --> 01:21:04,929
memories are ID sitting in the middle

1746
01:21:09,649 --> 01:21:06,929
when you fingered him

1747
01:21:13,070 --> 01:21:09,659
the family's there and people knew who

1748
01:21:15,620 --> 01:21:13,080
he was you didn't know who he was but

1749
01:21:19,729 --> 01:21:15,630
you singled him out and they came up to

1750
01:21:21,110 --> 01:21:19,739
you didn't they the man who did yes yes

1751
01:21:23,270 --> 01:21:21,120
they did they explained what was going

1752
01:21:25,970 --> 01:21:23,280
on and and from that moment it was just

1753
01:21:27,709 --> 01:21:25,980
like a ball a ball effect it just kept

1754
01:21:29,209 --> 01:21:27,719
bouncing and things just kept coming out

1755
01:21:31,970 --> 01:21:29,219
and there you go oh my gosh it's like

1756
01:21:33,140 --> 01:21:31,980
yes and listen and that and it was just

1757
01:21:35,300 --> 01:21:33,150
one thing after another and it all

1758
01:21:37,130 --> 01:21:35,310
filled in because he left now I can open

1759
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:37,140
up and I could let everybody know right

1760
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:38,850
all right and they knew but see that's

1761
01:21:44,180 --> 01:21:41,370
the thing they what you know people

1762
01:21:47,229 --> 01:21:44,190
suspect right but they don't know you

1763
01:21:50,899 --> 01:21:47,239
and you certainly don't know this town

1764
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:50,909
and it the way that it is presented in

1765
01:21:55,010 --> 01:21:52,650
the book that is a really holy smokes

1766
01:21:58,280 --> 01:21:55,020
moment that's a really really great case

1767
01:22:00,830 --> 01:21:58,290
and like you said save it for everybody

1768
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:00,840
out there to read how how that finishes

1769
01:22:07,130 --> 01:22:03,570
up and it's pretty incredible now let's

1770
01:22:10,189 --> 01:22:07,140
let's change gears here I'm the dad okay

1771
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:10,199
I have two daughters and who I love more

1772
01:22:16,700 --> 01:22:13,370
than anything in this world and when

1773
01:22:19,669 --> 01:22:16,710
when children are involved in anything

1774
01:22:21,860 --> 01:22:19,679
like well certainly with what you write

1775
01:22:25,610 --> 01:22:21,870
about but also the paranormal in general

1776
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:25,620
when I hear child's voices from the

1777
01:22:29,780 --> 01:22:27,449
other side that are recorded you know

1778
01:22:33,740 --> 01:22:29,790
EVPs and things like that it affects me

1779
01:22:37,910 --> 01:22:33,750
I'm a parent and a couple of your cases

1780
01:22:40,100 --> 01:22:37,920
here involve children for you is that

1781
01:22:43,370 --> 01:22:40,110
the toughest is that the toughest thing

1782
01:22:47,570 --> 01:22:43,380
to go through yeah I have children too

1783
01:22:50,510 --> 01:22:47,580
and and it's very difficult you know

1784
01:22:53,510 --> 01:22:50,520
honestly every case is difficult so I

1785
01:22:54,530 --> 01:22:53,520
love people I really do but when it

1786
01:22:56,959 --> 01:22:54,540
involves a child

1787
01:23:01,189 --> 01:22:56,969
it just gives that it's a different

1788
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:01,199
element it you know the angle of them

1789
01:23:06,709 --> 01:23:04,170
all the emotions anger you know upset

1790
01:23:10,340 --> 01:23:06,719
everything it's just it all twined

1791
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:10,350
together but when it's a child it's it's

1792
01:23:17,030 --> 01:23:14,610
a different animal it truly is you know

1793
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:17,040
when I got that call you know I know

1794
01:23:20,949 --> 01:23:19,650
you're talking about Little Caesar right

1795
01:23:24,489 --> 01:23:20,959
the four year old yeah

1796
01:23:27,739 --> 01:23:24,499
it was Canada Day and you know Here I am

1797
01:23:31,669 --> 01:23:27,749
I got family and people in the backyard

1798
01:23:33,589 --> 01:23:31,679
your July 4 we're July 1st right so we

1799
01:23:35,779 --> 01:23:33,599
saw it I'm on a border town so I mean we

1800
01:23:37,100 --> 01:23:35,789
celebrate the whole week you guys and us

1801
01:23:39,350 --> 01:23:37,110
right yeah you guys get a little bonus

1802
01:23:45,890 --> 01:23:39,360
yeah you guys get the bonus we don't we

1803
01:23:50,540 --> 01:23:45,900
don't do way too and so I get this call

1804
01:23:53,149 --> 01:23:50,550
from Kentucky and you know Here I am I'm

1805
01:23:55,580 --> 01:23:53,159
I got I guess arrogant I don't know what

1806
01:23:57,979 --> 01:23:55,590
you would call it but I got people over

1807
01:24:01,009 --> 01:23:57,989
and no I'm not doing it and I've never

1808
01:24:04,939 --> 01:24:01,019
ever done that before I've never said no

1809
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:04,949
to anybody like that and I turn around

1810
01:24:10,549 --> 01:24:06,570
my wife's right there and she goes no

1811
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:10,559
you call that lady back and you do it so

1812
01:24:13,819 --> 01:24:12,090
I ended up calling her back they sent me

1813
01:24:15,409 --> 01:24:13,829
a photograph again here I'm looking at

1814
01:24:18,319 --> 01:24:15,419
this four-year-old little angel on the

1815
01:24:18,979 --> 01:24:18,329
internet and that's all he had with him

1816
01:24:21,770 --> 01:24:18,989
and his name

1817
01:24:25,370 --> 01:24:21,780
what did she say to you during the phone

1818
01:24:27,409 --> 01:24:25,380
call what was her name Francine Francis

1819
01:24:30,049 --> 01:24:27,419
Francis yes what if Francis said to you

1820
01:24:31,729 --> 01:24:30,059
in that phone call we have an urgent

1821
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:31,739
matter of a missing four year old little

1822
01:24:39,500 --> 01:24:36,090
boy and would you help I talked to the

1823
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:39,510
detectives and she was like the liaison

1824
01:24:45,620 --> 01:24:41,130
going back and forth between us and them

1825
01:24:47,299 --> 01:24:45,630
and we had the Christopher 2x he was an

1826
01:24:49,580 --> 01:24:47,309
activist in Louisville Kentucky he's a

1827
01:24:51,169 --> 01:24:49,590
big activist down there and everybody's

1828
01:24:53,419 --> 01:24:51,179
out and everybody knows she just talked

1829
01:24:56,390 --> 01:24:53,429
to everybody she goes help and that's

1830
01:24:57,949 --> 01:24:56,400
where I said ok I got people over no but

1831
01:25:00,319 --> 01:24:57,959
then I turned around and called her back

1832
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:00,329
and she sent me the photograph I said

1833
01:25:05,810 --> 01:25:02,130
let it be with me for a bit I'll get

1834
01:25:09,109 --> 01:25:05,820
back to you started my thing and I was

1835
01:25:11,839 --> 01:25:09,119
channeling and I'm getting my paper and

1836
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:11,849
pen and the diagrams in the book and I'm

1837
01:25:17,419 --> 01:25:14,489
writing stadium lights and I draw four

1838
01:25:21,979 --> 01:25:17,429
circles and I put off stadium lights off

1839
01:25:24,049 --> 01:25:21,989
and I'm put down flags and been in

1840
01:25:25,939 --> 01:25:24,059
orange vests well if you stood on the

1841
01:25:27,830 --> 01:25:25,949
murderers front porch and you looked

1842
01:25:29,569 --> 01:25:27,840
right in this front yard they were doing

1843
01:25:32,540 --> 01:25:29,579
construction only in that area everybody

1844
01:25:33,979 --> 01:25:32,550
by his house and the flags was the blue

1845
01:25:34,700 --> 01:25:33,989
boys going pulling these little flags

1846
01:25:35,959 --> 01:25:34,710
gasoline

1847
01:25:38,900 --> 01:25:35,969
legs and stuff out of the ground to play

1848
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:38,910
with them so I put that down a paper I

1849
01:25:42,620 --> 01:25:41,130
said you know I'm looking for stuff and

1850
01:25:48,140 --> 01:25:42,630
I'm come on give me more give me more

1851
01:25:50,959 --> 01:25:48,150
and I get John I put down John and spy

1852
01:25:52,700 --> 01:25:50,969
the stadium and then if you again stood

1853
01:25:54,950 --> 01:25:52,710
on the murderers front porch and you

1854
01:25:57,110 --> 01:25:54,960
look across the street and you're the

1855
01:25:59,330 --> 01:25:57,120
little clearing Papa John stadiums there

1856
01:26:02,810 --> 01:25:59,340
now did you just say standing on the

1857
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:02,820
murderers front porch right I want to be

1858
01:26:08,780 --> 01:26:06,570
clear here okay yes yes absolutely

1859
01:26:11,650 --> 01:26:08,790
and then the diagrams are all in the

1860
01:26:16,340 --> 01:26:11,660
book two aerial shots and what have you

1861
01:26:21,260 --> 01:26:16,350
now I write down repeat offender two

1862
01:26:23,570 --> 01:26:21,270
boys well this guy's mo and his record

1863
01:26:26,209 --> 01:26:23,580
he's a repeat offender of two young boys

1864
01:26:28,010 --> 01:26:26,219
so all this stuff is fitting now we're

1865
01:26:30,500 --> 01:26:28,020
getting with profiling this individual

1866
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:30,510
and I still don't have a name I don't

1867
01:26:33,170 --> 01:26:31,290
know what he looks like

1868
01:26:37,220 --> 01:26:33,180
and I'm going through the motions and

1869
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:37,230
then there's a break and it's like oh my

1870
01:26:41,390 --> 01:26:39,090
gosh what's go and I know what's going

1871
01:26:43,490 --> 01:26:41,400
on because I could feel it like it's

1872
01:26:44,690 --> 01:26:43,500
almost like you know if you ever break

1873
01:26:46,850 --> 01:26:44,700
off with your girlfriend when you're a

1874
01:26:48,380 --> 01:26:46,860
young kid you that sadness that you had

1875
01:26:50,330 --> 01:26:48,390
that overwhelming you feel like

1876
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:50,340
rejection is gone it's taken out of your

1877
01:26:53,090 --> 01:26:51,810
hearts pauletta yeah I thought it feels

1878
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:53,100
like honestly that's what it really

1879
01:26:58,550 --> 01:26:55,650
feels like it's like riff great idea you

1880
01:27:00,560 --> 01:26:58,560
just nothing there and I'm I'm mad so

1881
01:27:03,830 --> 01:27:00,570
I'm going through the motions in my and

1882
01:27:06,350 --> 01:27:03,840
my little office and I check the pen

1883
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:06,360
across the room and I'm looking for some

1884
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:09,210
excuse to try to find something and I

1885
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:10,770
couldn't get anything it was blank and

1886
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:12,930
then all of a sudden started again and

1887
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:15,810
then here we are and I'm getting flashes

1888
01:27:21,260 --> 01:27:18,410
of this guy through a four-year-old's

1889
01:27:22,490 --> 01:27:21,270
eyeballs and I'm drawing as quick as I

1890
01:27:24,350 --> 01:27:22,500
can and it flashes to something

1891
01:27:26,660 --> 01:27:24,360
different I'm writing stuff down and

1892
01:27:30,170 --> 01:27:26,670
then I go back to draw on this guy again

1893
01:27:31,490 --> 01:27:30,180
if you look closely at his ears in the

1894
01:27:32,810 --> 01:27:31,500
diet you can see the one years to a

1895
01:27:34,850 --> 01:27:32,820
little bit to the more to the right you

1896
01:27:35,540 --> 01:27:34,860
look at the mugshot of a guy his ears a

1897
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:35,550
little more to the right

1898
01:27:39,140 --> 01:27:37,410
how corny they are at the whole it's

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01:27:41,300 --> 01:27:39,150
perfect but the four year old boy was

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01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:41,310
showing me so I'm going through all this

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01:27:45,500 --> 01:27:44,370
and I go my I spoke out loud and I said

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01:27:48,170 --> 01:27:45,510
give me his name

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01:27:50,210 --> 01:27:48,180
and he did he gave me Cecil

1904
01:27:52,460 --> 01:27:50,220
when I wrote Cecil at the top of the

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01:27:55,490 --> 01:27:52,470
page and I put an arrow down to his head

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01:27:58,010 --> 01:27:55,500
so now I know the monster I know who he

1907
01:28:01,400 --> 01:27:58,020
is I got the other particulars that I

1908
01:28:04,550 --> 01:28:01,410
could hope that will fit where he is and

1909
01:28:06,170 --> 01:28:04,560
then you know dogs in the basement and

1910
01:28:08,690 --> 01:28:06,180
stuff like this and there's all these

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01:28:10,370 --> 01:28:08,700
other features I went on the paper so

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01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:10,380
then time has gone by now

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01:28:17,030 --> 01:28:13,290
now hour and a half me a little bit more

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01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:17,040
and I send it over to Francis and off to

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01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:20,250
other detective and sure enough you know

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01:28:25,370 --> 01:28:22,410
there's moments that went wrong and awry

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01:28:27,590 --> 01:28:25,380
during their investigation but then she

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01:28:29,930 --> 01:28:27,600
checked with Christopher 2x and sure

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01:28:32,570 --> 01:28:29,940
enough was on the news I got the news

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01:28:34,100 --> 01:28:32,580
clip I played it once in a while and I

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01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:34,110
throw it on Facebook and it says you

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01:28:38,150 --> 01:28:35,730
know Louisville police got the break

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01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:38,160
they wanted and to go through the

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01:28:41,390 --> 01:28:39,930
scenario and what have you and then

1925
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:41,400
Christopher 2x said yes they used all

1926
01:28:47,510 --> 01:28:45,050
his his clues that night and

1927
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:47,520
unfortunately like you say it's a child

1928
01:28:54,850 --> 01:28:50,130
in it you know I hate talking about bad

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01:28:58,610 --> 01:28:56,960
unfortunately he passed because of this

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01:29:02,050 --> 01:28:58,620
monster

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Cecil Eugenia was arrested December 7th

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2007 and won't see that they light a day

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unbelievable and it's a gift it's a gift

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let's take a break right here when we

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come back more with Robbie

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Thomas psychic profiler amazing book by

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all right welcome back to eat the black

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I'm Jimmy Church our guest tonight are

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you ready for this

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psychic profiler Ravi Thomas and we're

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going through is I you know it's hard to

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you know you know Robbie before I get to

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this this segment is a fade to black has

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define what we are talking about here

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01:34:14,220 --> 01:34:10,550
isn't that stay with the others what I

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01:34:20,229 --> 01:34:14,230
mean by that is we're talking about your

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01:34:23,440 --> 01:34:20,239
is it your favorite most famous you know

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01:34:25,930 --> 01:34:23,450
or most it's it's hard you can't put

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01:34:27,130 --> 01:34:25,940
definitions on this like that you know

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01:34:31,810 --> 01:34:27,140
what I mean how could it be your most

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01:34:33,790 --> 01:34:31,820
favorite or how could it be the most you

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01:34:36,610 --> 01:34:33,800
know famous you know it's it's just

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01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:36,620
wrong to do that I don't know how to

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01:34:46,330 --> 01:34:39,850
define it I'm at a loss for words

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01:34:47,530 --> 01:34:46,340
yeah um I you know it's my life and when

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01:34:50,350 --> 01:34:47,540
they're basically when I sat down to

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01:34:52,390 --> 01:34:50,360
write this and you know it's a to full

2034
01:34:54,270 --> 01:34:52,400
thing like I told you before it's RIBA

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01:34:58,720 --> 01:34:54,280
tween lines it's there to help people in

2036
01:35:02,140 --> 01:34:58,730
law enforcement and families I spent you

2037
01:35:04,660 --> 01:35:02,150
know 28 years doing this a lot more of

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01:35:07,630 --> 01:35:04,670
it in the 90s like up until now and

2039
01:35:09,700 --> 01:35:07,640
2000's what-have-you and as it goes

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01:35:15,100 --> 01:35:09,710
along people just all the time like you

2041
01:35:17,440 --> 01:35:15,110
say injury intriguing that's the word

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01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:17,450
that's a safe yeah that's a safe word

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01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:20,210
here okay I feel better now it's it's

2044
01:35:24,820 --> 01:35:23,090
right it's wrong to say sensational

2045
01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:24,830
there's families that are involved here

2046
01:35:28,780 --> 01:35:27,410
you know it's wrong to say popular it's

2047
01:35:29,500 --> 01:35:28,790
just not right but you know what

2048
01:35:32,229 --> 01:35:29,510
intriguing

2049
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:32,239
there's my safe word let's let's go with

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01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:35,290
that the most intriguing cases now what

2051
01:35:40,540 --> 01:35:37,730
the one that I would like to discuss

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01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:40,550
next and then I'll let you dollar to do

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01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:40,930
the

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01:35:56,010 --> 01:35:53,770
you wrote Cecil down and at that point I

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01:35:57,690 --> 01:35:56,020
think not only law enforcement but

2056
01:36:01,230 --> 01:35:57,700
everybody that's involved with this

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01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:01,240
would say ok the man's got a gift we

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01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:03,730
need to recognize this and and here we

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01:36:08,130 --> 01:36:04,210
go

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01:36:10,550 --> 01:36:08,140
proof is the wrong word but the bus than

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01:36:14,010 --> 01:36:10,560
the missing lady

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01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:14,020
unbelievable case unbelievable I'm just

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01:36:17,150 --> 01:36:16,090
unbelievable the beginning that and tell

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01:36:20,900 --> 01:36:17,160
us about it

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01:36:25,530 --> 01:36:20,910
yeah worked the case before with Andy in

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01:36:27,810 --> 01:36:25,540
Kentucky the double homicide so and he

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01:36:31,260 --> 01:36:27,820
knows my work and I met Andy had a

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01:36:34,110 --> 01:36:31,270
paranormal convention in 2007 I think it

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01:36:35,790 --> 01:36:34,120
was and he was in law enforcement and so

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01:36:38,970 --> 01:36:35,800
we got chatting cuz he likes the fact I

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01:36:42,740 --> 01:36:38,980
want to be a cop and and what I do now

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01:36:45,930 --> 01:36:42,750
so one day the phone rings and he goes

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01:36:49,650 --> 01:36:45,940
Robin needs your help again and this

2074
01:36:53,910 --> 01:36:49,660
time it's a lady missing endangered

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01:36:57,090 --> 01:36:53,920
elderly lady she went missing from

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01:36:59,580 --> 01:36:57,100
Florida trying to remember at the town

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01:37:01,230 --> 01:36:59,590
he's from Kenneth city police

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01:37:03,060 --> 01:37:01,240
departments where he's from but it's

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01:37:06,570 --> 01:37:03,070
like I want to say Pensacola not

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01:37:11,070 --> 01:37:06,580
Pensacola Pinellas County that's it

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01:37:13,590 --> 01:37:11,080
so Annie gives me the mo and I said well

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01:37:15,810 --> 01:37:13,600
send me the file over and I'll take a

2083
01:37:17,610 --> 01:37:15,820
look at I don't need all the description

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01:37:20,460 --> 01:37:17,620
just need her picture and and just you

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01:37:22,950 --> 01:37:20,470
know a little bit so he did calls me

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01:37:24,900 --> 01:37:22,960
back who talked to him on the phone I'm

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01:37:26,730 --> 01:37:24,910
going through certain things then I'm

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01:37:28,140 --> 01:37:26,740
texting him and I'm calling them and I'm

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01:37:31,950 --> 01:37:28,150
texting him we're going back and forth

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01:37:35,100 --> 01:37:31,960
what I like about this book to Jimmy is

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the fact that all the validation and all

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01:37:39,750 --> 01:37:37,330
the credential of everything of all

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01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:39,760
these cases you get the text messages in

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01:37:43,440 --> 01:37:41,290
there you get the emails in here you get

2095
01:37:45,630 --> 01:37:43,450
the the testimonials from all the police

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01:37:47,370 --> 01:37:45,640
the families they're all tied to every

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case so it's all the writing's on the

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wall black and white so we're doing that

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we're doing the texting

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and during that if you're in Canada I'm

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in Canada right right and he's in sunny

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Florida and I you know I do go on scene

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as well as we described but sometimes

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I'm home just like a little for your

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01:38:14,549 --> 01:38:11,860
little boy so I'm sitting there and I'm

2106
01:38:18,330 --> 01:38:14,559
texting him the bolo went out at 9:35

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01:38:23,459 --> 01:38:18,340
a.m. what's a bolo and missing-persons

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01:38:24,959 --> 01:38:23,469
report okay be on the lookout bolo yeah

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01:38:26,609 --> 01:38:24,969
I was reading that in the book and I

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01:38:33,810 --> 01:38:26,619
kept trying to put that together

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01:38:34,919 --> 01:38:33,820
be on the lookout bolo now I guess that

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is so funny

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01:38:41,069 --> 01:38:37,000
okay be on the lookout missing person

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01:38:46,799 --> 01:38:41,079
got it right so we're clear the motion

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01:38:50,339 --> 01:38:46,809
and I said I see a bus and II and and

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01:38:52,890 --> 01:38:50,349
you know water in the rocks so Annie

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01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:52,900
took it right away we had you know a few

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[\h__\h] so at this time looking and he said

2119
01:38:59,490 --> 01:38:58,059
all down by a creek or whatever he's

2120
01:39:00,720 --> 01:38:59,500
trying to tell me so he sent the police

2121
01:39:02,279 --> 01:39:00,730
in what she wasn't there

2122
01:39:05,279 --> 01:39:02,289
cuz he figure it was a certain area when

2123
01:39:08,339 --> 01:39:05,289
I said rocks and water I said no no bus

2124
01:39:11,939 --> 01:39:08,349
taking a bus to the bay and I see the

2125
01:39:14,129 --> 01:39:11,949
bay area and where you can walk across

2126
01:39:17,310 --> 01:39:14,139
and in the public area like it's all

2127
01:39:19,740 --> 01:39:17,320
there so then now we've got hundreds of

2128
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:19,750
cops and the choppers in the air and

2129
01:39:22,379 --> 01:39:21,010
they're looking for this woman and

2130
01:39:24,990 --> 01:39:22,389
they're really concerned and they're

2131
01:39:26,970 --> 01:39:25,000
they're moving mad a bunch of mad law

2132
01:39:30,089 --> 01:39:26,980
enforcement officers looking for this

2133
01:39:31,890 --> 01:39:30,099
woman and sure enough in his letter

2134
01:39:36,180 --> 01:39:31,900
tells you right in the book they found

2135
01:39:38,189 --> 01:39:36,190
her Tampa Bay and and there she was but

2136
01:39:40,379 --> 01:39:38,199
they took the bus from st. Petersburg I

2137
01:39:41,700 --> 01:39:40,389
guess Florida what it's called there I'm

2138
01:39:44,250 --> 01:39:41,710
a Canuck I don't remember all the names

2139
01:39:46,260 --> 01:39:44,260
and stuck it right there and she got off

2140
01:39:48,209 --> 01:39:46,270
the bus and his text messages there you

2141
01:39:52,049 --> 01:39:48,219
were right spot on then he went on

2142
01:39:53,970 --> 01:39:52,059
Facebook and and he put his blurb out

2143
01:39:57,890 --> 01:39:53,980
there about it and wrote up the letter

2144
01:40:01,500 --> 01:39:57,900
and she's home safe within an hour

2145
01:40:04,169 --> 01:40:01,510
unbelievable the the case is

2146
01:40:06,450 --> 01:40:04,179
unbelievable and this is the other thing

2147
01:40:08,850 --> 01:40:06,460
I found myself

2148
01:40:13,290 --> 01:40:08,860
I couldn't stop reading the book but I'm

2149
01:40:17,370 --> 01:40:13,300
cheering you on like go Robbie go Robbie

2150
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:17,380
go go Robbie go it's it's it's really

2151
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:20,170
well written and and that's that was one

2152
01:40:27,450 --> 01:40:23,650
that had a had a happy ending and yeah

2153
01:40:28,140 --> 01:40:27,460
you know just just all of it was so well

2154
01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:28,150
presented

2155
01:40:33,180 --> 01:40:30,610
now let's I'm gonna let you choose the

2156
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:33,190
next one that you'd like to talk about

2157
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:37,810
and before you think about that or

2158
01:40:43,110 --> 01:40:40,690
before you bring it for you the one that

2159
01:40:44,610 --> 01:40:43,120
you're most proud of where it just well

2160
01:40:47,729 --> 01:40:44,620
they all seem to have come together but

2161
01:40:55,650 --> 01:40:47,739
the one for you where you went okay that

2162
01:40:57,959 --> 01:40:55,660
was that was a good one yeah the start

2163
01:41:00,479 --> 01:40:57,969
of my psychic justice tour I wanted to

2164
01:41:04,890 --> 01:41:00,489
start out with a big bang if you will

2165
01:41:07,170 --> 01:41:04,900
and is this up the Imperial yeah there's

2166
01:41:11,130 --> 01:41:07,180
that the Imperial theater right so this

2167
01:41:14,190 --> 01:41:11,140
this man goes missing in 1996 and this

2168
01:41:16,620 --> 01:41:14,200
poor lady calls me up and she hears that

2169
01:41:17,670 --> 01:41:16,630
I'm going to do this and what I help her

2170
01:41:20,729 --> 01:41:17,680
out and I said well I'll tell you what

2171
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:20,739
I'll tell you on stage I'll read you on

2172
01:41:25,260 --> 01:41:23,530
stage in front of the audience and you

2173
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:25,270
bring law enforcement tied to the case

2174
01:41:31,110 --> 01:41:28,050
there and we'll try to find your husband

2175
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:31,120
she's okay she agreed so months of

2176
01:41:36,030 --> 01:41:33,130
preparation went in to the fact of

2177
01:41:38,910 --> 01:41:36,040
getting all this done to the show very

2178
01:41:42,150 --> 01:41:38,920
first show so she is there and I gave

2179
01:41:43,979 --> 01:41:42,160
her homework prior to the show and I

2180
01:41:45,900 --> 01:41:43,989
said I want you two to talk to the

2181
01:41:47,700 --> 01:41:45,910
Ontario Provincial Police officer who

2182
01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:47,710
you were conversing with which is like

2183
01:41:54,930 --> 01:41:51,130
state police in an America to get a hold

2184
01:41:56,910 --> 01:41:54,940
of out west RCMP officers which is like

2185
01:42:02,700 --> 01:41:56,920
little higher your state police like

2186
01:42:04,470 --> 01:42:02,710
federal kind of and she did she got what

2187
01:42:06,030 --> 01:42:04,480
I wanted the information I said money

2188
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:06,040
hang on to it don't tell me before the

2189
01:42:10,830 --> 01:42:07,810
show I want to do it on the stage live

2190
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:10,840
so it's all raw so we get up there and I

2191
01:42:16,020 --> 01:42:13,810
said what did you find out in the

2192
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:16,030
information that I told you to do

2193
01:42:22,190 --> 01:42:19,530
she was the matter of privacy I said

2194
01:42:25,310 --> 01:42:22,200
that me the matter pregnant it's packed

2195
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:25,320
heater and the lights on us and she goes

2196
01:42:28,910 --> 01:42:26,610
it's a matter of privacy that's what

2197
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:28,920
they told me that and also near this

2198
01:42:33,710 --> 01:42:31,290
voice go and that's what they told me to

2199
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:33,720
and I look out in the audience and the

2200
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:35,370
light from the stage went on to the

2201
01:42:42,620 --> 01:42:40,290
beautiful old lady sitting in 15 rows up

2202
01:42:44,540 --> 01:42:42,630
and I jump off the stage I take the mic

2203
01:42:47,090 --> 01:42:44,550
and I hand it to her and I said could

2204
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:47,100
you repeat that she goes well but and

2205
01:42:50,390 --> 01:42:48,090
here's the kicker

2206
01:42:52,970 --> 01:42:50,400
that was the mom of the man who went

2207
01:42:56,150 --> 01:42:52,980
missing she now is not friends with the

2208
01:42:58,640 --> 01:42:56,160
lady onstage who is the ex-wife or

2209
01:43:01,610 --> 01:42:58,650
ex-daughter-in-law and she says it's a

2210
01:43:03,830 --> 01:43:01,620
privacy issue so I got him it's a matter

2211
01:43:06,140 --> 01:43:03,840
of privacy if the privacy issue says

2212
01:43:07,700 --> 01:43:06,150
that's what they told us to I said well

2213
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:07,710
so that you're doing your investigation

2214
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:09,570
I wanted to come here to find out if you

2215
01:43:15,940 --> 01:43:12,690
could help me too and just shouldn't

2216
01:43:20,750 --> 01:43:15,950
realize that the daughter's onstage so

2217
01:43:23,510 --> 01:43:20,760
the back story of this is is that they

2218
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:23,520
went and talked to another psychic and

2219
01:43:29,210 --> 01:43:26,610
the psychic said to the family he's dead

2220
01:43:33,530 --> 01:43:29,220
he's buried behind a jail

2221
01:43:34,910 --> 01:43:33,540
along a fence line in Mexico don't

2222
01:43:37,180 --> 01:43:34,920
bother looking for him you won't find

2223
01:43:42,290 --> 01:43:37,190
them and they were told this for years

2224
01:43:44,660 --> 01:43:42,300
1996 2010 here they are we found him

2225
01:43:47,210 --> 01:43:44,670
where I said to find him British

2226
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:47,220
Columbia Canada in the Delta region and

2227
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:49,290
they found him he was working in a

2228
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:51,570
cement place he was working motors and

2229
01:43:56,960 --> 01:43:54,410
doing cement stuff Geronimo there now

2230
01:43:58,340 --> 01:43:56,970
there's some other parts to this - well

2231
01:44:03,980 --> 01:43:58,350
I don't you know I want to save it for

2232
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:03,990
the book but yeah yeah ok but but

2233
01:44:12,980 --> 01:44:07,530
disclose this when he left what did he

2234
01:44:16,130 --> 01:44:12,990
leave with hmm he wasn't the nicest kind

2235
01:44:19,550 --> 01:44:16,140
of fella and he left with two broken

2236
01:44:21,950 --> 01:44:19,560
arms and one hand he carried with a bag

2237
01:44:26,750 --> 01:44:21,960
of money the other hand he carried was

2238
01:44:28,850 --> 01:44:26,760
cocaine there you go now that I'll leave

2239
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:28,860
it for everybody I'd just go and read it

2240
01:44:35,890 --> 01:44:33,050
in the book because it's so well written

2241
01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:35,900
it's it's unreal now this this psychic

2242
01:44:40,660 --> 01:44:39,530
tour did you I know that that was part

2243
01:44:44,470 --> 01:44:40,670
of the plan

2244
01:44:46,540 --> 01:44:44,480
to have people come out and and and you

2245
01:44:49,660 --> 01:44:46,550
would you know help assist that's that's

2246
01:44:52,230 --> 01:44:49,670
a great thing but did you have any idea

2247
01:44:56,260 --> 01:44:52,240
that you were gonna have these kind of

2248
01:44:58,360 --> 01:44:56,270
successes on the road like this no

2249
01:45:00,490 --> 01:44:58,370
because you know I can't guarantee

2250
01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:00,500
anything in life you know I'll tie your

2251
01:45:06,340 --> 01:45:03,410
straight up nobody can and I tell every

2252
01:45:08,410 --> 01:45:06,350
family that wherever I go or who calls

2253
01:45:09,970 --> 01:45:08,420
me you know I'm straight for it I can't

2254
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:09,980
guarantee you we're gonna try our best

2255
01:45:16,480 --> 01:45:12,530
and this is what we're gonna do and it

2256
01:45:19,390 --> 01:45:16,490
was successful I mean we went to Toronto

2257
01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:19,400
and there was a major producer from the

2258
01:45:25,590 --> 01:45:23,210
BMT MuchMusic showed up and he was

2259
01:45:28,150 --> 01:45:25,600
watching me read to families they're

2260
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:28,160
very horrible case where a girl hung

2261
01:45:30,430 --> 01:45:28,730
herself

2262
01:45:34,540 --> 01:45:30,440
wellmaybe hundred yards from the police

2263
01:45:37,780 --> 01:45:34,550
station by Toronto it turned out her ID

2264
01:45:39,490 --> 01:45:37,790
was strewn all through the park area

2265
01:45:42,580 --> 01:45:39,500
making it look like she committed

2266
01:45:44,620 --> 01:45:42,590
suicide but she was so little that she

2267
01:45:47,350 --> 01:45:44,630
couldn't stand on the swing and put the

2268
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:47,360
chain around her neck where it took a

2269
01:45:52,690 --> 01:45:48,890
man to hold her and put the chain around

2270
01:45:56,340 --> 01:45:52,700
the neck so it was her boyfriend yeah we

2271
01:46:04,630 --> 01:45:56,350
went through that all the way to to Iowa

2272
01:46:08,110 --> 01:46:04,640
one individual we went down to hunting

2273
01:46:11,140 --> 01:46:08,120
in the town in Iowa to Sioux Sioux City

2274
01:46:13,510 --> 01:46:11,150
Sioux City yes and right and so we had

2275
01:46:16,690 --> 01:46:13,520
the mayor there we had the police I was

2276
01:46:19,210 --> 01:46:16,700
doing two cases and this one lady her

2277
01:46:20,590 --> 01:46:19,220
daughter was a rock guy he was gonna be

2278
01:46:22,660 --> 01:46:20,600
a rock I can here's a couple kids I've

2279
01:46:26,890 --> 01:46:22,670
been on too with rock stars here's a

2280
01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:26,900
rock guy doing his thing movie video

2281
01:46:32,710 --> 01:46:30,050
whatever and the daughter got overdosed

2282
01:46:36,010 --> 01:46:32,720
and he was feeding her pills and stuff

2283
01:46:37,660 --> 01:46:36,020
well you know witnesses saying alibi and

2284
01:46:39,460 --> 01:46:37,670
whatever to get him off and I'm

2285
01:46:41,980 --> 01:46:39,470
explaining certain things that went on

2286
01:46:43,660 --> 01:46:41,990
in that room that I wasn't even I didn't

2287
01:46:46,390 --> 01:46:43,670
know because they kept it all quiet and

2288
01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:46,400
I looked down as I was explaining I left

2289
01:46:49,149 --> 01:46:46,610
over

2290
01:46:50,590 --> 01:46:49,159
to the detectives and you could tell the

2291
01:46:51,010 --> 01:46:50,600
one detective she was a really hard

2292
01:46:53,459 --> 01:46:51,020
nosed

2293
01:46:56,229 --> 01:46:53,469
she just staring at me like you know

2294
01:46:58,000 --> 01:46:56,239
true me and then the gentleman she

2295
01:47:01,030 --> 01:46:58,010
looking at him like how would he know

2296
01:47:03,399 --> 01:47:01,040
and it was amazing how it all correlated

2297
01:47:06,430 --> 01:47:03,409
and fell into their their lap because I

2298
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:06,440
was just confirming what they were going

2299
01:47:12,790 --> 01:47:09,770
on and then Jodi Hughes in truth

2300
01:47:16,680 --> 01:47:12,800
here's a huge high-profile case Jodi

2301
01:47:21,070 --> 01:47:16,690
Hughes intrude news anchorwoman from

2302
01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:21,080
Minnesota area IO era went missing so I

2303
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:23,690
have on the phone Gary Peterson who is

2304
01:47:27,970 --> 01:47:25,610
licensed throughout the United States as

2305
01:47:32,140 --> 01:47:27,980
on seeing death investigator one of the

2306
01:47:33,340 --> 01:47:32,150
lead best for the United States he

2307
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:33,350
travels all the United States and

2308
01:47:37,750 --> 01:47:35,330
catastrophes with Red Cross everything

2309
01:47:39,910 --> 01:47:37,760
and I got to know Gary so Gary is the

2310
01:47:41,950 --> 01:47:39,920
head guy in this case and I got my Skype

2311
01:47:45,129 --> 01:47:41,960
I'm talking to him and the audience is

2312
01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:45,139
listening and I said to him everybody

2313
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:49,130
only knows about one guy one vehicle and

2314
01:47:54,970 --> 01:47:52,010
not an area and I drew my sketch as the

2315
01:47:56,890 --> 01:47:54,980
area a bridge a bridge and then there's

2316
01:47:59,740 --> 01:47:56,900
like water and in between there's a like

2317
01:48:01,600 --> 01:47:59,750
a great steel grate and I said there's

2318
01:48:05,770 --> 01:48:01,610
two cars she was being watched by two

2319
01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:05,780
cars and two guys and he he says all

2320
01:48:11,169 --> 01:48:08,449
over the sky he goes nobody knew that

2321
01:48:14,500 --> 01:48:11,179
and he goes you're absolutely right he

2322
01:48:18,250 --> 01:48:14,510
says we've kept that quiet and so I know

2323
01:48:22,359 --> 01:48:18,260
the case isn't solved at all but that to

2324
01:48:23,830 --> 01:48:22,369
lent to them confirmation of everything

2325
01:48:27,189 --> 01:48:23,840
else and there's more stuff I did say

2326
01:48:31,390 --> 01:48:27,199
that got very pertinent for him in his

2327
01:48:33,629 --> 01:48:31,400
case where's that case today I remember

2328
01:48:37,510 --> 01:48:33,639
when she went missing I remember this

2329
01:48:39,939 --> 01:48:37,520
right the boast I know about it is what

2330
01:48:42,790 --> 01:48:39,949
I left Iowa and I told Gary

2331
01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:42,800
I spoke to hear it briefly because I

2332
01:48:47,310 --> 01:48:45,170
brought him on the television shoot

2333
01:48:50,770 --> 01:48:47,320
worth America's most want to film me in

2334
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:50,780
my new pilot for psychic profiler TV

2335
01:48:56,800 --> 01:48:52,730
series I brought him on for another case

2336
01:49:00,160 --> 01:48:56,810
as an expert going over autopsy photos

2337
01:49:04,230 --> 01:49:00,170
of a little girl who was murdered and so

2338
01:49:07,900 --> 01:49:04,240
we discussed briefly but he he did again

2339
01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:07,910
confirm the things that I told him were

2340
01:49:12,820 --> 01:49:11,330
right on the button for that case but

2341
01:49:14,410 --> 01:49:12,830
now see I'm not the investigator and I

2342
01:49:17,770 --> 01:49:14,420
didn't get told in any further than that

2343
01:49:19,540 --> 01:49:17,780
but I guess I just leaves them lead you

2344
01:49:21,430 --> 01:49:19,550
know it's another piece of thread to

2345
01:49:23,230 --> 01:49:21,440
their case and hopefully they can find

2346
01:49:24,930 --> 01:49:23,240
her and get those two guys but they

2347
01:49:27,670 --> 01:49:24,940
still got their eyes on those two guys

2348
01:49:32,140 --> 01:49:27,680
now I have this is what I want to do

2349
01:49:34,030 --> 01:49:32,150
I've got an entire list of questions

2350
01:49:37,180 --> 01:49:34,040
that have come in from Twitter so at the

2351
01:49:38,650 --> 01:49:37,190
top of the hour the next segment well I

2352
01:49:40,330 --> 01:49:38,660
want to go through all of these these

2353
01:49:43,180 --> 01:49:40,340
are excellent questions from the

2354
01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:43,190
audience but before we get to that how

2355
01:49:52,540 --> 01:49:48,530
if somebody out there needs you do you

2356
01:49:56,740 --> 01:49:52,550
accept that of just people contacting

2357
01:50:00,220 --> 01:49:56,750
you yeah my contact information is on my

2358
01:50:01,420 --> 01:50:00,230
website with a contact page now people

2359
01:50:04,570 --> 01:50:01,430
have to understand you know things

2360
01:50:06,610 --> 01:50:04,580
aren't cheap to travel to go to places

2361
01:50:08,620 --> 01:50:06,620
and please don't fund this stuff so

2362
01:50:10,180 --> 01:50:08,630
there's out-of-pocket expenses and

2363
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:10,190
things that have to be covered to do

2364
01:50:17,110 --> 01:50:14,210
this so but if someone needs you you are

2365
01:50:18,490 --> 01:50:17,120
accessible all I'm accessible you just

2366
01:50:21,460 --> 01:50:18,500
have to get ahold of me through my

2367
01:50:23,830 --> 01:50:21,470
website my email is right there and you

2368
01:50:26,500 --> 01:50:23,840
go to the contact page you hit the email

2369
01:50:29,410 --> 01:50:26,510
button you write me and I usually

2370
01:50:31,210 --> 01:50:29,420
respond within about 24-48 hours and I

2371
01:50:33,990 --> 01:50:31,220
wanted to mention the book really quick

2372
01:50:36,460 --> 01:50:34,000
and work and everybody get the book

2373
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:36,470
right now it's a special signed edition

2374
01:50:40,900 --> 01:50:39,050
with all the extra bonus material that's

2375
01:50:42,610 --> 01:50:40,910
in the book we're discussing only

2376
01:50:44,470 --> 01:50:42,620
through my office what's going to go

2377
01:50:46,420 --> 01:50:44,480
into stores and online

2378
01:50:48,130 --> 01:50:46,430
you're not going to have the same bonus

2379
01:50:50,350 --> 01:50:48,140
material there's going to be a lot of

2380
01:50:51,910 --> 01:50:50,360
the pictures from filming of America's

2381
01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:51,920
Most Wanted that are shot in there

2382
01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:53,690
they're coming out all the other stuff

2383
01:50:57,400 --> 01:50:55,250
this is going to be a sign special

2384
01:51:00,040 --> 01:50:57,410
edition okay and you can go to Robbie

2385
01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:00,050
Thomas net Robbie Thomas at net so just

2386
01:51:04,180 --> 01:51:01,970
go straight to the website okay very

2387
01:51:06,130 --> 01:51:04,190
simple and the links are over at Jimmy

2388
01:51:09,250 --> 01:51:06,140
Trudeau calm everybody just click right

2389
01:51:12,549 --> 01:51:09,260
there it'll take you straight there how

2390
01:51:16,149 --> 01:51:12,559
many police departments across a

2391
01:51:21,029 --> 01:51:16,159
Canada in the United States have you you

2392
01:51:23,169 --> 01:51:21,039
know in they're rolodex if you will jaha

2393
01:51:24,700 --> 01:51:23,179
it's almost like when I get asked the

2394
01:51:29,169 --> 01:51:24,710
question how many cases have you done

2395
01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:29,179
it's it's up there it's really up there

2396
01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:32,210
i go to i go to a convention and they

2397
01:51:35,649 --> 01:51:34,250
show up to come and talk to me and see

2398
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:35,659
if I can come on a case with them like

2399
01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:38,770
in Ohio or Indiana the Delphi murders

2400
01:51:43,330 --> 01:51:41,210
you know I've had I went to Indiana did

2401
01:51:45,609 --> 01:51:43,340
a convention there and I think every cop

2402
01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:45,619
was there pretty much and then um I got

2403
01:51:51,819 --> 01:51:47,570
an individual who I spoke to the mom

2404
01:51:54,430 --> 01:51:51,829
Libby's mom and that case is so diluted

2405
01:51:57,040 --> 01:51:54,440
with so many people who were psychics

2406
01:51:59,379 --> 01:51:57,050
but you know you haven't gotten anywhere

2407
01:52:01,899 --> 01:51:59,389
I feel sorry for them and that and

2408
01:52:05,260 --> 01:52:01,909
here's a thing to Jimmy you're an

2409
01:52:07,419 --> 01:52:05,270
officer I give you a lead or a tip you

2410
01:52:10,149 --> 01:52:07,429
have to follow that so if you have a

2411
01:52:12,279 --> 01:52:10,159
hundred people coming saying you know I

2412
01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:12,289
got this person is she psychic and they

2413
01:52:15,459 --> 01:52:14,210
bring them in and they give you that and

2414
01:52:16,450 --> 01:52:15,469
get it like another hundred people and

2415
01:52:18,640 --> 01:52:16,460
they give you all these tips they gotta

2416
01:52:19,870 --> 01:52:18,650
follow all that they got to go decipher

2417
01:52:24,209 --> 01:52:19,880
what's good what's right what's wrong

2418
01:52:27,310 --> 01:52:24,219
takes man-hours in long time how many

2419
01:52:29,649 --> 01:52:27,320
how many psychic profilers are out there

2420
01:52:32,250 --> 01:52:29,659
well there's a lot of that say their

2421
01:52:37,029 --> 01:52:32,260
psychic profilers but how many are there

2422
01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:37,039
that are of your caliber oh I don't know

2423
01:52:44,439 --> 01:52:40,489
the word caliber but I mean how many out

2424
01:52:45,100 --> 01:52:44,449
there I've never sat in office with

2425
01:52:48,250 --> 01:52:45,110
another one

2426
01:52:50,859 --> 01:52:48,260
I mean I've spoken with people who say

2427
01:52:52,510 --> 01:52:50,869
they are I've asked them for you know

2428
01:52:54,180 --> 01:52:52,520
documentation or do you know this to tax

2429
01:52:57,669 --> 01:52:54,190
with that and they never come up with it

2430
01:53:00,149 --> 01:52:57,679
I don't know I can't honestly answer

2431
01:53:03,100 --> 01:53:00,159
that I really can't I don't know it's

2432
01:53:04,140 --> 01:53:03,110
it's gotta be single digits that's what

2433
01:53:09,250 --> 01:53:04,150
I'm thinking

2434
01:53:13,930 --> 01:53:09,260
right yeah now and what about are there

2435
01:53:16,990 --> 01:53:13,940
I don't know about the about Canada well

2436
01:53:23,140 --> 01:53:17,000
in the United States to is is your

2437
01:53:27,029 --> 01:53:23,150
information is it is it evidence I mean

2438
01:53:33,339 --> 01:53:29,889
only on the way that they claim it as

2439
01:53:34,839 --> 01:53:33,349
they got the evidence they can't I was

2440
01:53:36,339 --> 01:53:34,849
told this once where they can't say we

2441
01:53:40,359 --> 01:53:36,349
got it from a psychic right that's

2442
01:53:42,849 --> 01:53:40,369
enough yeah yeah because I've I'm a

2443
01:53:45,339 --> 01:53:42,859
defense attorney I'm gonna be all over

2444
01:53:47,259 --> 01:53:45,349
that right oh absolutely and even if I

2445
01:53:49,899 --> 01:53:47,269
gave the name of Cecil and I gave where

2446
01:53:52,089 --> 01:53:49,909
his address was and they'd be all over

2447
01:53:54,369 --> 01:53:52,099
it so they have to use it a different

2448
01:53:58,779 --> 01:53:54,379
perspective and and how they do it

2449
01:54:01,060 --> 01:53:58,789
that's up to them it's like one time I

2450
01:54:02,469 --> 01:54:01,070
got caught in detective says all I need

2451
01:54:04,540 --> 01:54:02,479
you to do is show up and sit in the

2452
01:54:05,979 --> 01:54:04,550
court waiting room don't need you to do

2453
01:54:08,709 --> 01:54:05,989
anything just sit in the court waiting

2454
01:54:10,209 --> 01:54:08,719
room so I did sat there and it was a

2455
01:54:12,129 --> 01:54:10,219
recess and everybody leaves this

2456
01:54:13,810 --> 01:54:12,139
gentleman comes back and he goes hey you

2457
01:54:14,829 --> 01:54:13,820
know how you doing a security goes so

2458
01:54:16,629 --> 01:54:14,839
you here for the good guys are the bad

2459
01:54:18,159 --> 01:54:16,639
guys I said I'm here for the good guys

2460
01:54:20,259 --> 01:54:18,169
you goes who's that and I said the

2461
01:54:22,389 --> 01:54:20,269
police and he goes that's the bad guys

2462
01:54:24,009 --> 01:54:22,399
and you went out the door went down the

2463
01:54:26,049 --> 01:54:24,019
stairs and I hear this footsteps coming

2464
01:54:27,909 --> 01:54:26,059
up the stairs again and it's a lady that

2465
01:54:30,279 --> 01:54:27,919
I was just supposed to sit there not do

2466
01:54:31,689 --> 01:54:30,289
anything she took a look at me she made

2467
01:54:32,379 --> 01:54:31,699
a beeline to the courtroom and took the

2468
01:54:34,929 --> 01:54:32,389
plea bargain

2469
01:54:38,199 --> 01:54:34,939
the detective come over to me and I

2470
01:54:41,079 --> 01:54:38,209
taught her karate for years self-defense

2471
01:54:44,379 --> 01:54:41,089
and she come over to me detective delay

2472
01:54:46,899 --> 01:54:44,389
I'm sorry Beth Leahy that's her name she

2473
01:54:48,969 --> 01:54:46,909
came over and she goes thank you rob I

2474
01:54:52,899 --> 01:54:48,979
told him he need you for it was the the

2475
01:54:54,790 --> 01:54:52,909
most queerest different moment I ever

2476
01:54:56,739 --> 01:54:54,800
had I never I just I didn't understand

2477
01:55:00,819 --> 01:54:56,749
it I just thought that it was done was

2478
01:55:05,109 --> 01:55:00,829
different now what do you do with have

2479
01:55:10,389 --> 01:55:05,119
you ever I'm trying to think of the Tom

2480
01:55:12,819 --> 01:55:10,399
Cruise movie where he was anyway have

2481
01:55:19,029 --> 01:55:12,829
you ever have you ever profiled somebody

2482
01:55:20,469 --> 01:55:19,039
before the crime yes I have was Victoria

2483
01:55:22,540 --> 01:55:20,479
stoppers case a little girl who's

2484
01:55:24,369 --> 01:55:22,550
missing two days before she went I drew

2485
01:55:26,889 --> 01:55:24,379
all my drawings and I profiled a man and

2486
01:55:28,449 --> 01:55:26,899
a woman I wrote down that she wanted to

2487
01:55:31,569 --> 01:55:28,459
prove to him that she could be a mother

2488
01:55:34,599 --> 01:55:31,579
or useful as as a boyfriend she wanted

2489
01:55:36,849 --> 01:55:34,609
this guy and I profiled him exactly how

2490
01:55:38,709 --> 01:55:36,859
he looked and what have you all that

2491
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:38,719
went to the detective Brown and then I

2492
01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:39,530
went to the fan

2493
01:55:45,010 --> 01:55:42,770
and sure enough that guy's in jail mmm

2494
01:55:48,490 --> 01:55:45,020
the woman confessed to murdering

2495
01:55:50,260 --> 01:55:48,500
Victoria now what are you okay in that

2496
01:55:53,950 --> 01:55:50,270
case you acted on it

2497
01:55:57,910 --> 01:55:53,960
have you ever oh the movie was Minority

2498
01:56:03,820 --> 01:55:57,920
Report it just popped in my head have

2499
01:56:07,180 --> 01:56:03,830
you ever not acted on something I don't

2500
01:56:09,370 --> 01:56:07,190
ambulance chase because it's a respect

2501
01:56:11,470 --> 01:56:09,380
for the law enforcement you know I've

2502
01:56:15,160 --> 01:56:11,480
done shows where law enforcement have

2503
01:56:18,700 --> 01:56:15,170
their own radio programs law and order

2504
01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:18,710
and all that and they don't like it when

2505
01:56:22,180 --> 01:56:20,450
people call in they really don't they

2506
01:56:23,740 --> 01:56:22,190
don't like you know because in again

2507
01:56:26,080 --> 01:56:23,750
they got to follow that tip or whatever

2508
01:56:28,120 --> 01:56:26,090
so I wait for them to call me and

2509
01:56:31,540 --> 01:56:28,130
usually like you say it's the rolodex

2510
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:31,550
thing they do call and they do ask so I

2511
01:56:36,760 --> 01:56:34,010
have to sit back and wait it's not that

2512
01:56:39,310 --> 01:56:36,770
I don't want to and I try not to watch a

2513
01:56:41,650 --> 01:56:39,320
lot of news because it's just like it's

2514
01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:41,660
cumbersome this this is so much bad on

2515
01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:43,850
there and what do you do we're gonna

2516
01:56:49,660 --> 01:56:46,490
head towards a break here what do you do

2517
01:56:52,000 --> 01:56:49,670
to cleanse your mind it's got to get

2518
01:56:55,570 --> 01:56:52,010
cluttered right I mean how do you how do

2519
01:56:59,410 --> 01:56:55,580
you get into the zone I bring my wife on

2520
01:57:00,820 --> 01:56:59,420
every mmm death scene or taste and she

2521
01:57:04,030 --> 01:57:00,830
comes with me she travels with me she's

2522
01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:04,040
my out so as I'm going through the case

2523
01:57:08,830 --> 01:57:05,930
like you and I talking that's how I'm

2524
01:57:12,550 --> 01:57:08,840
doing with her then I have my moments I

2525
01:57:15,430 --> 01:57:12,560
work out in the gym daily pumping iron

2526
01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:15,440
and then my other out is I pray to God a

2527
01:57:20,590 --> 01:57:18,890
lot and what can you tell us we've got

2528
01:57:22,840 --> 01:57:20,600
about one minute here before the break

2529
01:57:26,320 --> 01:57:22,850
can you tell us what are you working on

2530
01:57:29,020 --> 01:57:26,330
right now where you are there's a very

2531
01:57:30,550 --> 01:57:29,030
high-profile case I'm on that one with

2532
01:57:34,150 --> 01:57:30,560
Chief of Police

2533
01:57:38,920 --> 01:57:34,160
Martha Decker I'm working with LAPD on

2534
01:57:40,810 --> 01:57:38,930
this one it is very strange the man was

2535
01:57:43,540 --> 01:57:40,820
in America's Got Talent

2536
01:57:45,190 --> 01:57:43,550
2010 and his wife was found murdered at

2537
01:57:49,270 --> 01:57:45,200
the bottom two stairwell and the

2538
01:57:52,210 --> 01:57:49,280
Biltmore Hotel really yeah we should

2539
01:57:54,250 --> 01:57:52,220
talk about that sometime yeah man

2540
01:57:55,630 --> 01:57:54,260
we've got to take a break right here so

2541
01:57:58,240 --> 01:57:55,640
let's go ahead and do that and when we

2542
01:58:00,640 --> 01:57:58,250
come back Robbie I have got I haven't

2543
01:58:02,350 --> 01:58:00,650
seen Twitter and we do this show every

2544
01:58:05,230 --> 01:58:02,360
night I haven't seen Twitter quite on

2545
01:58:07,360 --> 01:58:05,240
fire like this in a long time so well

2546
01:58:08,650 --> 01:58:07,370
we're gonna go and we do three thousand

2547
01:58:11,320 --> 01:58:08,660
tweets a night you should see what

2548
01:58:13,090 --> 01:58:11,330
Twitter's doing right now and I've got a

2549
01:58:14,590 --> 01:58:13,100
bunch of questions lined up for you

2550
01:58:16,780 --> 01:58:14,600
we'll get to all of them

2551
01:58:18,700 --> 01:58:16,790
I promise everybody right after the

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kgr a the planet follow me on Twitter

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right now at J Church radio you follow

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Ravi too at Ravi underscore Thomas it's

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right there and this this segment of

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by new mana they've got that special

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banners now Robbie I've got a load of

2651
02:03:28,070 --> 02:03:24,580
questions here so we're gonna go rapid

2652
02:03:32,580 --> 02:03:28,080
fire take your time in answering but

2653
02:03:34,740 --> 02:03:32,590
I've got a load of stuff here here we go

2654
02:03:37,950 --> 02:03:34,750
you ready sure

2655
02:03:42,980 --> 02:03:37,960
this comes in from Kim can you find lost

2656
02:03:45,900 --> 02:03:42,990
dogs you know have people in my hometown

2657
02:03:49,290 --> 02:03:45,910
whenever they get lost animals they take

2658
02:03:51,870 --> 02:03:49,300
off be fast and sure enough it's like

2659
02:03:54,240 --> 02:03:51,880
people you know people ask me to this

2660
02:03:57,630 --> 02:03:54,250
question really quick they say do dogs

2661
02:03:59,190 --> 02:03:57,640
have spirits yeah absolutely they do you

2662
02:04:01,560 --> 02:03:59,200
know there's many accounts where people

2663
02:04:04,230 --> 02:04:01,570
say I'm in my home and I hear my dog or

2664
02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:04,240
hear my cat or I see my dog a shadow and

2665
02:04:10,590 --> 02:04:06,250
there's been animals caught on video the

2666
02:04:12,930 --> 02:04:10,600
spirit dogs so yeah animals are just

2667
02:04:15,720 --> 02:04:12,940
like people they're if they're lost and

2668
02:04:18,030 --> 02:04:15,730
I get called for that certain thing it's

2669
02:04:22,050 --> 02:04:18,040
not something I would do because it's

2670
02:04:25,770 --> 02:04:22,060
not I'm mostly for people like murder

2671
02:04:28,260 --> 02:04:25,780
and missing but yeah there should people

2672
02:04:32,670 --> 02:04:28,270
should be able to find dogs yeah I can I

2673
02:04:35,490 --> 02:04:32,680
can only imagine that you get requests

2674
02:04:37,680 --> 02:04:35,500
for the strangest things all the time I

2675
02:04:40,020 --> 02:04:37,690
mean because people are emotional to

2676
02:04:42,330 --> 02:04:40,030
things it could be something else too

2677
02:04:46,440 --> 02:04:42,340
doesn't even have to be a person it

2678
02:04:49,140 --> 02:04:46,450
could be a belonging you know of what

2679
02:04:52,169 --> 02:04:49,150
about a famous painting or

2680
02:04:55,740 --> 02:04:52,179
or money stolen money do you get those

2681
02:04:57,479 --> 02:04:55,750
requests - yeah I did a forward for

2682
02:04:59,669 --> 02:04:57,489
award-winning screenwriter Lauria

2683
02:05:01,080 --> 02:04:59,679
Shepherd she wrote the story about Brian

2684
02:05:01,709 --> 02:05:01,090
Jones the murder of the Rolling Stones

2685
02:05:06,030 --> 02:05:01,719
right

2686
02:05:09,990 --> 02:05:06,040
and we found a painting in Toronto that

2687
02:05:11,399 --> 02:05:10,000
belonged to him yeah I want to hear when

2688
02:05:14,790 --> 02:05:11,409
I bring you back I want to hear that

2689
02:05:19,620 --> 02:05:14,800
story I mean I'm a big music guy that

2690
02:05:22,649 --> 02:05:19,630
that sounds fun let's see this comes

2691
02:05:27,390 --> 02:05:22,659
from mark mark wants to know when did

2692
02:05:30,630 --> 02:05:27,400
you realize you could do this the actual

2693
02:05:32,189 --> 02:05:30,640
police I've dedicated my life when after

2694
02:05:34,080 --> 02:05:32,199
I wants you to be a police officer and

2695
02:05:35,250 --> 02:05:34,090
the story is we didn't touch upon his I

2696
02:05:37,410 --> 02:05:35,260
actually quit

2697
02:05:39,780 --> 02:05:37,420
I was hired and fired when I was 17 and

2698
02:05:42,300 --> 02:05:39,790
the same day was you got to be 20 to be

2699
02:05:43,919 --> 02:05:42,310
axillary and I was 17 I'd be told all

2700
02:05:46,709 --> 02:05:43,929
those guys I look like I was 20 I was

2701
02:05:53,640 --> 02:05:46,719
built I'm built now by the way not

2702
02:05:57,090 --> 02:05:53,650
kidding um but yeah um you know that's

2703
02:05:59,370 --> 02:05:57,100
part of me I knew what I wanted to do so

2704
02:06:03,000 --> 02:05:59,380
I focused on it and that's where I was

2705
02:06:05,100 --> 02:06:03,010
but as a child it was hard to grasp the

2706
02:06:07,200 --> 02:06:05,110
certain elements of it but then I was

2707
02:06:09,510 --> 02:06:07,210
coming into my own knowing how to be

2708
02:06:11,130 --> 02:06:09,520
guided and knowing what to look for and

2709
02:06:12,600 --> 02:06:11,140
like I said I said I add those three

2710
02:06:14,430 --> 02:06:12,610
gentlemen across the way you passed away

2711
02:06:16,830 --> 02:06:14,440
I used to sit quietly

2712
02:06:19,290 --> 02:06:16,840
just watch and observe and then just

2713
02:06:21,870 --> 02:06:19,300
knew how things happened this comes in

2714
02:06:26,669 --> 02:06:21,880
from bloke he wants to know if you can

2715
02:06:28,410 --> 02:06:26,679
control it yeah you know there I've

2716
02:06:30,720 --> 02:06:28,420
heard before people speak of and I've

2717
02:06:32,910 --> 02:06:30,730
done a lot of TV and radio shows over

2718
02:06:34,740 --> 02:06:32,920
the years where they say the switch or

2719
02:06:39,240 --> 02:06:34,750
they call it the term the switch on/off

2720
02:06:42,450 --> 02:06:39,250
whatever yeah you can control it certain

2721
02:06:46,050 --> 02:06:42,460
times you like sitting in the living

2722
02:06:48,000 --> 02:06:46,060
room when the girl went missing two days

2723
02:06:49,080 --> 02:06:48,010
prior to I'm in the living room sit with

2724
02:06:50,310 --> 02:06:49,090
my wife and my family

2725
02:06:53,160 --> 02:06:50,320
and all of a sudden was like a movie

2726
02:06:53,669 --> 02:06:53,170
boom there was and I just played out

2727
02:06:56,130 --> 02:06:53,679
that way

2728
02:06:57,390 --> 02:06:56,140
and then at the end of the case when it

2729
02:06:58,620 --> 02:06:57,400
was all done and went to the final

2730
02:07:01,229 --> 02:06:58,630
balloon release when we got the guy

2731
02:07:02,459 --> 02:07:01,239
convicted and it's in the book this

2732
02:07:03,149 --> 02:07:02,469
story you didn't get a chance to read

2733
02:07:06,169 --> 02:07:03,159
but there's

2734
02:07:09,540 --> 02:07:06,179
cases in the book as I'm putting them in

2735
02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:09,550
they had the fact of her coming at the

2736
02:07:13,620 --> 02:07:12,010
end and she came and hugged me my family

2737
02:07:15,120 --> 02:07:13,630
are looking at me like I'm nuts but I'm

2738
02:07:17,490 --> 02:07:15,130
hugging the air but it was hard with

2739
02:07:19,020 --> 02:07:17,500
Victoria and she handed me a yellow rose

2740
02:07:21,000 --> 02:07:19,030
but she was full of butterflies all

2741
02:07:22,649 --> 02:07:21,010
around her I didn't know the

2742
02:07:24,780 --> 02:07:22,659
significance of this so I talked to the

2743
02:07:27,180 --> 02:07:24,790
family I spoke to Rebecca and she is

2744
02:07:29,189 --> 02:07:27,190
crying and she says her favorite thing

2745
02:07:31,649 --> 02:07:29,199
was butterflies

2746
02:07:36,510 --> 02:07:31,659
she loved the yellow flowers so that's

2747
02:07:38,700 --> 02:07:36,520
what it was what was thanking me Wow Wow

2748
02:07:40,830 --> 02:07:38,710
this is from do sky Jimmy please ask

2749
02:07:42,990 --> 02:07:40,840
Bobby if he has ever been under

2750
02:07:45,540 --> 02:07:43,000
suspicion in a case because the cops

2751
02:07:48,209 --> 02:07:45,550
felt he knew too much now we talked

2752
02:07:50,030 --> 02:07:48,219
about this earlier but certainly this

2753
02:07:53,430 --> 02:07:50,040
has to come up Robbie

2754
02:07:55,560 --> 02:07:53,440
you know at times it truly does because

2755
02:07:57,840 --> 02:07:55,570
you know I say to him I'm just a Canuck

2756
02:07:59,280 --> 02:07:57,850
I'm from Canada and how would I know I'm

2757
02:08:04,280 --> 02:07:59,290
in Canada and things are happening in

2758
02:08:06,990 --> 02:08:04,290
the States or overseas it's very

2759
02:08:08,850 --> 02:08:07,000
intricate like I mean I'm how can I say

2760
02:08:11,939 --> 02:08:08,860
I've worked with the guy who rewrote

2761
02:08:13,770 --> 02:08:11,949
your homeland security initiative he's

2762
02:08:16,770 --> 02:08:13,780
actually mark Tillman who did the very

2763
02:08:18,360 --> 02:08:16,780
first movie it the casting director he's

2764
02:08:20,010 --> 02:08:18,370
his friend I got to speak to him and

2765
02:08:22,410 --> 02:08:20,020
what have you and all and all this he's

2766
02:08:25,620 --> 02:08:22,420
lives where you are in the sunny weather

2767
02:08:27,479 --> 02:08:25,630
and you know it's amazing because I'm

2768
02:08:30,840 --> 02:08:27,489
doing a double homicide butcher's Haller

2769
02:08:32,820 --> 02:08:30,850
in Kentucky and he shows up I don't know

2770
02:08:33,740 --> 02:08:32,830
how the hell he found me and butchers

2771
02:08:37,800 --> 02:08:33,750
Haller

2772
02:08:40,290 --> 02:08:37,810
what are you doing that oh yeah I'm

2773
02:08:41,700 --> 02:08:40,300
sorry I feel like I interrupted you but

2774
02:08:43,620 --> 02:08:41,710
don't know no it's like you know like

2775
02:08:45,840 --> 02:08:43,630
you say they must think I'm thinking I

2776
02:08:47,729 --> 02:08:45,850
got Homeland Security the head inventor

2777
02:08:49,530 --> 02:08:47,739
of IBM or whatever he's tied in with the

2778
02:08:52,169 --> 02:08:49,540
police following me you know it's really

2779
02:08:54,240 --> 02:08:52,179
weird and totally totally what do you do

2780
02:09:01,410 --> 02:08:54,250
to keep it together with all of these

2781
02:09:05,040 --> 02:09:01,420
murders and dead people I don't have the

2782
02:09:08,040 --> 02:09:05,050
I'm trying to find the right word where

2783
02:09:10,590 --> 02:09:08,050
you enjoy this I you know it's the

2784
02:09:13,050 --> 02:09:10,600
furthest thing from that but keeping it

2785
02:09:14,819 --> 02:09:13,060
together is I just know this is how I am

2786
02:09:17,219 --> 02:09:14,829
I've grown cold' to it

2787
02:09:18,779 --> 02:09:17,229
I've grown really cold too I'm gonna

2788
02:09:21,959 --> 02:09:18,789
want this to sound funny to the

2789
02:09:26,250 --> 02:09:21,969
listeners a girl called two people so if

2790
02:09:28,439 --> 02:09:26,260
I'm going after you I am cold to you and

2791
02:09:31,560 --> 02:09:28,449
it doesn't bother me because I'm hunting

2792
02:09:33,810 --> 02:09:31,570
you and then for the families I know

2793
02:09:36,089 --> 02:09:33,820
there's a perspective you have to be in

2794
02:09:37,619 --> 02:09:36,099
the right frame of mind for them but

2795
02:09:39,029 --> 02:09:37,629
then there's a limit because you have to

2796
02:09:41,009 --> 02:09:39,039
stop them and I've been down this way

2797
02:09:42,629 --> 02:09:41,019
where you know they want to call in

2798
02:09:44,669 --> 02:09:42,639
everybody and they want to get the news

2799
02:09:46,739 --> 02:09:44,679
media involved and I write about that in

2800
02:09:48,329 --> 02:09:46,749
the book to where you can't do this

2801
02:09:50,819 --> 02:09:48,339
there's the good the bad the ugly I call

2802
02:09:53,069 --> 02:09:50,829
it and one chapter and it's like I said

2803
02:09:55,109 --> 02:09:53,079
it's for informative reading for people

2804
02:09:57,899 --> 02:09:55,119
to understand if you want to get the bad

2805
02:10:00,899 --> 02:09:57,909
guy you got to follow the footsteps what

2806
02:10:03,060 --> 02:10:00,909
do you do to protect yourself physically

2807
02:10:06,839 --> 02:10:03,070
you know spiritual barriers to the bad

2808
02:10:08,819 --> 02:10:06,849
stuff from the other side I pray to Lord

2809
02:10:10,979 --> 02:10:08,829
Jesus Christ that's my Lord and Savior

2810
02:10:12,839 --> 02:10:10,989
I don't pump that out to people or

2811
02:10:17,579 --> 02:10:12,849
choose your faith or whatever you know I

2812
02:10:21,899 --> 02:10:17,589
respect everybody everywhere that's my

2813
02:10:26,040 --> 02:10:21,909
vigilance you know in and as a physical

2814
02:10:30,119 --> 02:10:26,050
feature of myself I like I say I got the

2815
02:10:33,060 --> 02:10:30,129
black belt I kick box for years I work

2816
02:10:34,500 --> 02:10:33,070
out all the time I'm not scared of

2817
02:10:36,959 --> 02:10:34,510
anything

2818
02:10:41,699 --> 02:10:36,969
I got good blue liners all around me all

2819
02:10:44,159 --> 02:10:41,709
the time now this comes from IPD and I'm

2820
02:10:47,659 --> 02:10:44,169
not familiar with this so maybe you are

2821
02:10:52,859 --> 02:10:47,669
what do you think of the dead zone

2822
02:10:56,520 --> 02:10:52,869
the dead zone oh you know during

2823
02:10:58,619 --> 02:10:56,530
Halloween I made this this is really

2824
02:11:00,209 --> 02:10:58,629
funny I hope they're not listening my

2825
02:11:03,060 --> 02:11:00,219
daughter goes dad look at there's a stop

2826
02:11:04,859 --> 02:11:03,070
sign down and I said what she jumps out

2827
02:11:07,319 --> 02:11:04,869
of the car now you got my daughter was

2828
02:11:08,969 --> 02:11:07,329
only 17 at the time she grabs the stop

2829
02:11:12,000 --> 02:11:08,979
sign throws it in the car and would he

2830
02:11:14,699 --> 02:11:12,010
do and she goes go and she'd take off

2831
02:11:17,399 --> 02:11:14,709
she stole the stop sign we go home and

2832
02:11:19,259 --> 02:11:17,409
it's Halloween and we painted over in

2833
02:11:23,929 --> 02:11:19,269
the road dead zone and I put it up there

2834
02:11:28,620 --> 02:11:23,939
there they're good radio show Oh with

2835
02:11:31,379 --> 02:11:28,630
Christopher Walken the dead zone moves

2836
02:11:36,030 --> 02:11:31,389
yes the movie ah yeah man it's been a

2837
02:11:40,140 --> 02:11:36,040
long time but yeah I do remember that he

2838
02:11:41,939 --> 02:11:40,150
had he had abilities anyway won't waste

2839
02:11:42,660 --> 02:11:41,949
our time on that but yeah now now I

2840
02:11:44,100 --> 02:11:42,670
remember

2841
02:11:45,899 --> 02:11:44,110
okay I thought it was like a new TV

2842
02:11:49,919 --> 02:11:45,909
series or something that The Walking

2843
02:11:57,209 --> 02:11:52,290
Jimmy please ask Robby if a psychic

2844
02:12:00,240 --> 02:11:57,219
profiler needs to be invited oh that is

2845
02:12:02,070 --> 02:12:00,250
somebody it's funny they come in later

2846
02:12:04,050 --> 02:12:02,080
on to the show and they don't know that

2847
02:12:09,479 --> 02:12:04,060
you and I've already discussed this

2848
02:12:14,640 --> 02:12:09,489
earlier what about other things like the

2849
02:12:16,410 --> 02:12:14,650
Las Vegas shooting all right would you

2850
02:12:18,240 --> 02:12:16,420
would you get involved in the case like

2851
02:12:23,729 --> 02:12:18,250
that and did you have any do you have

2852
02:12:25,770 --> 02:12:23,739
anything to add to that case no when

2853
02:12:27,060 --> 02:12:25,780
think when case has come close to here's

2854
02:12:28,790 --> 02:12:27,070
a nothing - I'm glad you brought that up

2855
02:12:30,959 --> 02:12:28,800
when a case has come to a close or

2856
02:12:33,000 --> 02:12:30,969
they've gotten what they've done it's

2857
02:12:35,280 --> 02:12:33,010
like it's null and void to me I don't

2858
02:12:39,030 --> 02:12:35,290
even bother with it is no feeling to it

2859
02:12:41,399 --> 02:12:39,040
there's just nothing there because then

2860
02:12:42,990 --> 02:12:41,409
I know that they're done with it done if

2861
02:12:46,080 --> 02:12:43,000
they would ask me to get involved you

2862
02:12:48,870 --> 02:12:46,090
know thank goodness they got the guy

2863
02:12:51,330 --> 02:12:48,880
right away and you know they did what

2864
02:12:54,510 --> 02:12:51,340
they did and unfortunately a lot of

2865
02:12:57,030 --> 02:12:54,520
beautiful people got hurt and murdered

2866
02:12:58,950 --> 02:12:57,040
it's very sad a lot of love to those

2867
02:13:00,720 --> 02:12:58,960
families a lot of love to the people who

2868
02:13:02,820 --> 02:13:00,730
who are not with us anymore

2869
02:13:05,220 --> 02:13:02,830
you don't want to see that you really

2870
02:13:08,729 --> 02:13:05,230
don't and unfortunately there are a lot

2871
02:13:10,080 --> 02:13:08,739
of wackos out in this world I always

2872
02:13:12,149 --> 02:13:10,090
tell people you can't stop the

2873
02:13:14,550 --> 02:13:12,159
inevitable I always wondered you know if

2874
02:13:16,410 --> 02:13:14,560
I would have been 5 feet a little faster

2875
02:13:18,510 --> 02:13:16,420
what I would have saved Little Caesar

2876
02:13:22,500 --> 02:13:18,520
you know if I was like you know a little

2877
02:13:24,750 --> 02:13:22,510
bit more attentive to Victoria before

2878
02:13:29,370 --> 02:13:24,760
she went missing two days before could

2879
02:13:31,530 --> 02:13:29,380
have stopped that you know or getting

2880
02:13:34,020 --> 02:13:31,540
you know people who were chained up in

2881
02:13:35,250 --> 02:13:34,030
the basement and could I have stopped

2882
02:13:36,510 --> 02:13:35,260
her from getting chained up in the

2883
02:13:37,770 --> 02:13:36,520
basement from the human trafficking

2884
02:13:40,890 --> 02:13:37,780
nobody got her out

2885
02:13:42,570 --> 02:13:40,900
I saved her life there's just certain

2886
02:13:45,360 --> 02:13:42,580
things Jimmy that go through my mind

2887
02:13:47,550 --> 02:13:45,370
all the time and I replay this and it's

2888
02:13:49,110 --> 02:13:47,560
not like I I forget about a case every

2889
02:13:51,300 --> 02:13:49,120
anniversary of every person that I've

2890
02:13:52,290 --> 02:13:51,310
ever done case I always remember it and

2891
02:13:55,080 --> 02:13:52,300
I do

2892
02:13:57,240 --> 02:13:55,090
I had this fixation of letting people

2893
02:14:00,090 --> 02:13:57,250
know on social media that you know the

2894
02:14:02,460 --> 02:14:00,100
today's Caesar can all his it's his day

2895
02:14:03,660 --> 02:14:02,470
you know and God bless him and it's just

2896
02:14:06,120 --> 02:14:03,670
something that sticks with me I guess

2897
02:14:09,930 --> 02:14:06,130
that's a part of me to let it go well

2898
02:14:12,630 --> 02:14:09,940
like what the Las Vegas shooter

2899
02:14:14,640 --> 02:14:12,640
there has been suggestions that there

2900
02:14:19,170 --> 02:14:14,650
was more than one shooter for instance

2901
02:14:21,960 --> 02:14:19,180
right or right right right and you know

2902
02:14:24,300 --> 02:14:21,970
he had to have a assistants there was

2903
02:14:27,870 --> 02:14:24,310
too much you know in that hotel room

2904
02:14:31,200 --> 02:14:27,880
guns and ammo and and there must have

2905
02:14:34,140 --> 02:14:31,210
been more to the case than what law

2906
02:14:36,870 --> 02:14:34,150
enforcement is is telling us yes I mean

2907
02:14:40,470 --> 02:14:36,880
would you choose do you ever let your

2908
02:14:42,630 --> 02:14:40,480
conspiracy side you know draw you into a

2909
02:14:44,580 --> 02:14:42,640
case like that where maybe you don't

2910
02:14:46,530 --> 02:14:44,590
think law enforcement is is telling the

2911
02:14:48,930 --> 02:14:46,540
truth and I know that you wanted to be a

2912
02:14:51,840 --> 02:14:48,940
cop but I know you understand where I'm

2913
02:14:57,000 --> 02:14:51,850
going with this - yeah and I've went

2914
02:15:00,600 --> 02:14:57,010
after them - and you know sitting in a

2915
02:15:04,620 --> 02:15:00,610
different case again West Virginia area

2916
02:15:06,930 --> 02:15:04,630
and I asked hi you're gonna flip what I

2917
02:15:08,730 --> 02:15:06,940
asked I asked a guy how did you become

2918
02:15:10,350 --> 02:15:08,740
corner and I got the leading taking

2919
02:15:11,820 --> 02:15:10,360
minutes I got the incoming sheriff I got

2920
02:15:14,790 --> 02:15:11,830
the fire chief and I got the corner

2921
02:15:16,530 --> 02:15:14,800
there was a double homicide and we're

2922
02:15:20,810 --> 02:15:16,540
doing all this recording of everything

2923
02:15:24,330 --> 02:15:20,820
and he says well the sheriff at the time

2924
02:15:25,710 --> 02:15:24,340
appointed me and it's okay

2925
02:15:28,170 --> 02:15:25,720
and they said what would you do before

2926
02:15:29,880 --> 02:15:28,180
that because I was a grocery clerk and I

2927
02:15:32,310 --> 02:15:29,890
said so how you became a corner from

2928
02:15:34,260 --> 02:15:32,320
becoming I said how did you end up

2929
02:15:36,450 --> 02:15:34,270
losing her lyrics and all the throat

2930
02:15:39,180 --> 02:15:36,460
parts and that stuff but before I asked

2931
02:15:41,100 --> 02:15:39,190
that he said they handed me a VHS tape

2932
02:15:44,100 --> 02:15:41,110
and I went home and I watched it for

2933
02:15:46,890 --> 02:15:44,110
seven days and he says I became the

2934
02:15:48,270 --> 02:15:46,900
corner after seven days and I'm looking

2935
02:15:49,950 --> 02:15:48,280
at this I'm shaking my head and I go you

2936
02:15:51,600 --> 02:15:49,960
got to be a medical practitioner you

2937
02:15:55,020 --> 02:15:51,610
have to be licensed by the state you

2938
02:15:56,280 --> 02:15:55,030
have to be schooled for years just gonna

2939
02:15:56,609 --> 02:15:56,290
point it from the grocery clerk but

2940
02:15:58,199 --> 02:15:56,619
that's how

2941
02:16:00,419 --> 02:15:58,209
happened and that's that's the truth

2942
02:16:02,040 --> 02:16:00,429
story it goes a lot deeper and I know

2943
02:16:03,419 --> 02:16:02,050
you'll have a chuckle at it we could

2944
02:16:07,199 --> 02:16:03,429
talk about that again sometime

2945
02:16:09,389 --> 02:16:07,209
but I went after them and you know the

2946
02:16:11,459 --> 02:16:09,399
water cop he lied in what he was doing

2947
02:16:13,290 --> 02:16:11,469
and on film you see me in America's Most

2948
02:16:15,179 --> 02:16:13,300
Wanted film crews filming and I go right

2949
02:16:16,919 --> 02:16:15,189
to his face and I said you know I don't

2950
02:16:18,899 --> 02:16:16,929
believe a word you're saying and then

2951
02:16:22,199 --> 02:16:18,909
I'm going yeah you know like you're not

2952
02:16:23,850 --> 02:16:22,209
pulling over on me and there's been

2953
02:16:25,799 --> 02:16:23,860
other cases too where you get a

2954
02:16:28,319 --> 02:16:25,809
confession did you get a confession at

2955
02:16:30,659 --> 02:16:28,329
that point well you look at him in the

2956
02:16:33,089 --> 02:16:30,669
film the film footage and he just stares

2957
02:16:37,139 --> 02:16:33,099
down at the floor he's caught he know he

2958
02:16:37,769 --> 02:16:37,149
was caught body language right right

2959
02:16:41,899 --> 02:16:37,779
right

2960
02:16:47,509 --> 02:16:41,909
what about false flags what about 9/11

2961
02:16:54,570 --> 02:16:47,519
9/11 oh well I guess that's a yes

2962
02:16:56,120 --> 02:16:54,580
yeah you know yeah definitely and you

2963
02:16:58,649 --> 02:16:56,130
know looking at things that become

2964
02:17:02,700 --> 02:16:58,659
premonition listen call it that word

2965
02:17:04,620 --> 02:17:02,710
that's a word I'm writing a book and I'm

2966
02:17:07,500 --> 02:17:04,630
talking to again the homeland security

2967
02:17:10,229 --> 02:17:07,510
guy in mark Tillman and I write down in

2968
02:17:12,330 --> 02:17:10,239
the in the book it was actually a

2969
02:17:14,639 --> 02:17:12,340
screenplay to begin with now write down

2970
02:17:18,389 --> 02:17:14,649
9.0 earthquake off the coast of Japan

2971
02:17:20,910 --> 02:17:18,399
and this was back in just before it

2972
02:17:23,910 --> 02:17:20,920
happened what a week actually before it

2973
02:17:26,429 --> 02:17:23,920
happened and I noted it and on Facebook

2974
02:17:29,580 --> 02:17:26,439
I noted it it's all in social media and

2975
02:17:31,859 --> 02:17:29,590
whatever and then sure enough it hit

2976
02:17:33,450 --> 02:17:31,869
another 9.0 earthquake off the coast of

2977
02:17:35,189 --> 02:17:33,460
Japan so when I see stuff like that I

2978
02:17:36,870 --> 02:17:35,199
didn't know it was actually gonna happen

2979
02:17:38,939 --> 02:17:36,880
I thought oh this is a great movie and

2980
02:17:42,359 --> 02:17:38,949
I'm writing it out so when we're

2981
02:17:43,910 --> 02:17:42,369
thinking about 9/11 and in seeing that I

2982
02:17:47,339 --> 02:17:43,920
remember sitting in front of the TV

2983
02:17:49,830 --> 02:17:47,349
watching the first plane hit life

2984
02:17:52,169 --> 02:17:49,840
The Today Show I think it was I was like

2985
02:17:54,209 --> 02:17:52,179
oh my gosh they're there watching this

2986
02:17:56,969 --> 02:17:54,219
and what's going on and I knew right

2987
02:17:58,979 --> 02:17:56,979
away I said they're being attacked and

2988
02:18:01,379 --> 02:17:58,989
then there was another one and and then

2989
02:18:04,259 --> 02:18:01,389
I remember the host hand it must be

2990
02:18:06,209 --> 02:18:04,269
radar or radio signals or driving the

2991
02:18:09,240 --> 02:18:06,219
plane to the buildings it was something

2992
02:18:10,260 --> 02:18:09,250
really funny though they said but you

2993
02:18:14,850 --> 02:18:10,270
know I just knew

2994
02:18:18,621 --> 02:18:14,860
being attacked what about how far back

2995
02:18:27,570 --> 02:18:18,631
do you go you know like say for instance

2996
02:18:37,440 --> 02:18:27,580
Jack the Ripper yeah Oh sex slave trade

2997
02:18:39,871 --> 02:18:37,450
case 1974 that far I own in in the book

2998
02:18:41,460 --> 02:18:39,881
I put a special little thing in there

2999
02:18:44,871 --> 02:18:41,470
about Al Capone we're hearing Al

3000
02:18:48,090 --> 02:18:44,881
Capone's lost and the speakeasy and Don

3001
02:18:50,550 --> 02:18:48,100
who's actually on Chicago Fire he's the

3002
02:18:52,980 --> 02:18:50,560
fire chief he owned it and so we're in

3003
02:18:55,560 --> 02:18:52,990
there filming and I'm getting in on

3004
02:18:57,900 --> 02:18:55,570
felon going you know you're dead right

3005
02:18:59,970 --> 02:18:57,910
and the talking over top of me the

3006
02:19:02,280 --> 02:18:59,980
spirit the guy who's dead and he goes

3007
02:19:04,100 --> 02:19:02,290
Jesus doesn't want because at the time I

3008
02:19:07,350 --> 02:19:04,110
wore a little rosary around my wrist and

3009
02:19:10,500 --> 02:19:07,360
he was mocking me and so I started

3010
02:19:13,411 --> 02:19:10,510
talking about stash or Stosh the one

3011
02:19:15,180 --> 02:19:13,421
there wasn't to IRA's that took over in

3012
02:19:17,820 --> 02:19:15,190
Al Capone's speakeasy there is the Hells

3013
02:19:19,530 --> 02:19:17,830
Angels and it was alkapone the Hells

3014
02:19:21,720 --> 02:19:19,540
Angels they found two guys upstairs in

3015
02:19:24,840 --> 02:19:21,730
the loft area a big coke table full of

3016
02:19:26,430 --> 02:19:24,850
coke they were dead they were looking

3017
02:19:27,630 --> 02:19:26,440
look out looking down the road if he

3018
02:19:29,460 --> 02:19:27,640
went up in that lock to look down the

3019
02:19:30,570 --> 02:19:29,470
road you can see for miles down that the

3020
02:19:33,570 --> 02:19:30,580
police were coming whatever

3021
02:19:35,550 --> 02:19:33,580
Al Capone had it all situated so these

3022
02:19:38,010 --> 02:19:35,560
guys took over and I said you know

3023
02:19:39,210 --> 02:19:38,020
there's stash here in the floor and Don

3024
02:19:41,430 --> 02:19:39,220
looks he goes you're kidding me I said

3025
02:19:42,960 --> 02:19:41,440
another stash up in here and the floor

3026
02:19:45,300 --> 02:19:42,970
and I know the guys name is ash the guys

3027
02:19:47,820 --> 02:19:45,310
name the stock so was murdered in the

3028
02:19:49,741 --> 02:19:47,830
thing in the loft and sure enough they

3029
02:19:52,560 --> 02:19:49,751
crack the floor there was old bags of

3030
02:19:56,150 --> 02:19:52,570
coke in the in the floor what do you

3031
02:19:58,291 --> 02:19:56,160
mean Al Capone Al Capone speakeasy

3032
02:20:03,270 --> 02:19:58,301
opponent okay

3033
02:20:06,001 --> 02:20:03,280
Al Capone died quite a while ago right

3034
02:20:09,390 --> 02:20:06,011
right and we were filming the movie dead

3035
02:20:11,581 --> 02:20:09,400
whisper dead whisper came about it was

3036
02:20:14,220 --> 02:20:11,591
the Natalie Holloway case we were going

3037
02:20:16,530 --> 02:20:14,230
to go to Aruba and we got called by the

3038
02:20:19,440 --> 02:20:16,540
authorities it was 14-time award-winning

3039
02:20:21,541 --> 02:20:19,450
film producer Rommel Busby Christopher

3040
02:20:23,270 --> 02:20:21,551
O'Brien who's on ancient aliens now yeah

3041
02:20:25,551 --> 02:20:23,280
we don't Chris good friend

3042
02:20:28,400 --> 02:20:25,561
good friend yeah he's a good friend he

3043
02:20:30,770 --> 02:20:28,410
was behind that the camera at the time

3044
02:20:33,530 --> 02:20:30,780
back then tell me me but then he went on

3045
02:20:35,211 --> 02:20:33,540
each and Aliens years later we were

3046
02:20:37,520 --> 02:20:35,221
going to go but then it got switched

3047
02:20:39,980 --> 02:20:37,530
around so he ended up going to Chicago

3048
02:20:41,270 --> 02:20:39,990
and Ron says what do you want to do

3049
02:20:43,370 --> 02:20:41,280
because we can't get to Aruba they won't

3050
02:20:45,381 --> 02:20:43,380
let us in and I said okay well let's

3051
02:20:47,270 --> 02:20:45,391
shoot the movie Ghost and legends but it

3052
02:20:48,921 --> 02:20:47,280
turned out to be dead whisper and we

3053
02:20:51,320 --> 02:20:48,931
picked the locations and sure enough we

3054
02:20:55,160 --> 02:20:51,330
got hooked up with Dawn who owned Al

3055
02:20:57,290 --> 02:20:55,170
Capone's speakeasy in Willowbrook now I

3056
02:21:00,051 --> 02:20:57,300
got ok yeah and that's why the hell is

3057
02:21:01,160 --> 02:21:00,061
it okay mat now I understand okay right

3058
02:21:07,610 --> 02:21:01,170
right right

3059
02:21:10,100 --> 02:21:07,620
okay Wow how much cocaine was there dawn

3060
02:21:13,011 --> 02:21:10,110
it was a couple little bags in the floor

3061
02:21:17,990 --> 02:21:13,021
floorboard that's unbelievable

3062
02:21:20,240 --> 02:21:18,000
no what about yeah I want to do you

3063
02:21:23,060 --> 02:21:20,250
mentioned Natalie Holloway and that's

3064
02:21:26,660 --> 02:21:23,070
that's an obvious thing that that that

3065
02:21:30,680 --> 02:21:26,670
is a case that you should you should

3066
02:21:32,720 --> 02:21:30,690
still do it's still unsolved yeah we

3067
02:21:34,881 --> 02:21:32,730
were I gave up him here's the funny

3068
02:21:38,211 --> 02:21:34,891
thing about that I gave all my

3069
02:21:40,910 --> 02:21:38,221
information to Ron we had a group of

3070
02:21:43,310 --> 02:21:40,920
people must never was 7 to 10 people

3071
02:21:46,341 --> 02:21:43,320
involved in this and was all BBC radio

3072
02:21:48,171 --> 02:21:46,351
was Don Newsom and his brother Doug and

3073
02:21:50,001 --> 02:21:48,181
whole bunch of people organized this for

3074
02:21:52,400 --> 02:21:50,011
me to go there with them and they film

3075
02:21:54,950 --> 02:21:52,410
it and the whole nine yards so we get in

3076
02:21:56,720 --> 02:21:54,960
there we're about ready to get our head

3077
02:21:58,730 --> 02:21:56,730
over and do her thing and then we got

3078
02:21:59,841 --> 02:21:58,740
called not to go because everybody and

3079
02:22:03,140 --> 02:21:59,851
their grandmother were combing the

3080
02:22:06,080 --> 02:22:03,150
island so we went to Chicago like I said

3081
02:22:08,540 --> 02:22:06,090
and then Ron comes into my hotel room

3082
02:22:11,360 --> 02:22:08,550
and he's mad and he flips on Fox News

3083
02:22:13,461 --> 02:22:11,370
and he goes back to your drawing how did

3084
02:22:15,410 --> 02:22:13,471
they end up on Fox and I do much the

3085
02:22:19,490 --> 02:22:15,420
running shoes that he left on the beach

3086
02:22:21,921 --> 02:22:19,500
right I drew the the colored boats the

3087
02:22:26,060 --> 02:22:21,931
little yellow boy I remember that yes

3088
02:22:29,410 --> 02:22:26,070
yes that's all my drawings and he was

3089
02:22:32,870 --> 02:22:29,420
mad somebody leaked out everything I had

3090
02:22:35,091 --> 02:22:32,880
that I gave to the group leaked it out

3091
02:22:36,200 --> 02:22:35,101
and it was on fox news so somebody

3092
02:22:38,930 --> 02:22:36,210
wanted money

3093
02:22:44,000 --> 02:22:38,940
um but it didn't give them the last part

3094
02:22:46,370 --> 02:22:44,010
I kept that so I give it to Ron Ron and

3095
02:22:47,330 --> 02:22:46,380
I we had a note so I don't speak to him

3096
02:22:49,760 --> 02:22:47,340
anymore and what have you

3097
02:22:52,460 --> 02:22:49,770
here's a kicker for you I'm on TV

3098
02:22:54,740 --> 02:22:52,470
daytime live in Toronto Canada big TV

3099
02:22:55,969 --> 02:22:54,750
show over here and we started talking

3100
02:22:58,580 --> 02:22:55,979
just like you and I both Natalie

3101
02:23:00,590 --> 02:22:58,590
Holloway we're talking about something

3102
02:23:02,270 --> 02:23:00,600
different the host goes well we know you

3103
02:23:04,610 --> 02:23:02,280
went you were going to do the Natalie

3104
02:23:06,440 --> 02:23:04,620
Holloway case with with this group of

3105
02:23:09,560 --> 02:23:06,450
people what do you think about van der

3106
02:23:12,110 --> 02:23:09,570
Sloot now and I looked at him and I said

3107
02:23:12,830 --> 02:23:12,120
you know he's gonna murder again real

3108
02:23:14,960 --> 02:23:12,840
soon

3109
02:23:18,140 --> 02:23:14,970
it was three weeks later he murdered

3110
02:23:21,590 --> 02:23:18,150
that girl in Peru which was - the day

3111
02:23:25,550 --> 02:23:21,600
that Natalie Holloway disappeared five

3112
02:23:29,540 --> 02:23:25,560
years prior right and I find that just

3113
02:23:33,670 --> 02:23:29,550
disturbing yeah that that's way beyond

3114
02:23:38,719 --> 02:23:33,680
coincidence I mean obviously plan that

3115
02:23:41,390 --> 02:23:38,729
now what about and we're almost done

3116
02:23:46,640 --> 02:23:41,400
here but I've got to ask you this what

3117
02:23:49,250 --> 02:23:46,650
about something like aliens at area 51

3118
02:23:51,410 --> 02:23:49,260
can you you know yeah you know what I

3119
02:23:54,800 --> 02:23:51,420
mean would you would you judge this yeah

3120
02:23:56,540 --> 02:23:54,810
yeah I'm a little boy laying on the

3121
02:23:59,090 --> 02:23:56,550
ground my mother's doing laundry in the

3122
02:24:01,040 --> 02:23:59,100
clothes line and I got my armor I can

3123
02:24:02,660 --> 02:24:01,050
just vision myself I my arms behind my

3124
02:24:04,520 --> 02:24:02,670
head you know just looking up in the sky

3125
02:24:07,160 --> 02:24:04,530
and I said to my mother one of the

3126
02:24:08,900 --> 02:24:07,170
angels coming back and she'd go what

3127
02:24:13,010 --> 02:24:08,910
angels Robbie and I said you know other

3128
02:24:13,940 --> 02:24:13,020
angels from the other planets and you

3129
02:24:15,680 --> 02:24:13,950
know you got a two-year-old

3130
02:24:19,400 --> 02:24:15,690
three-year-old kid talking about stuff

3131
02:24:24,460 --> 02:24:19,410
like this very interesting area 51 and

3132
02:24:28,070 --> 02:24:24,470
what they're hiding say that again

3133
02:24:34,090 --> 02:24:28,080
very interesting area 51 in what they're

3134
02:24:37,790 --> 02:24:34,100
hiding from us how is that possible well

3135
02:24:40,670 --> 02:24:37,800
how is it that we can't get in there to

3136
02:24:45,440 --> 02:24:40,680
see what's going on all right I mean

3137
02:24:47,900 --> 02:24:45,450
okay for at the age of three I don't

3138
02:24:48,730 --> 02:24:47,910
think you were watching science fiction

3139
02:24:53,080 --> 02:24:48,740
movies

3140
02:24:54,310 --> 02:24:53,090
no no not at all right and yeah and I

3141
02:24:56,830 --> 02:24:54,320
don't know what your parents were

3142
02:24:59,650 --> 02:24:56,840
watching on TV or subconsciously that

3143
02:25:03,610 --> 02:24:59,660
was in the background but that is a

3144
02:25:04,870 --> 02:25:03,620
question that had foundation yes

3145
02:25:07,591 --> 02:25:04,880
absolutely

3146
02:25:11,560 --> 02:25:07,601
and I remember it's like a very vivid

3147
02:25:13,810 --> 02:25:11,570
you know and and I just know that what

3148
02:25:16,390 --> 02:25:13,820
are the lone folks we all know that yeah

3149
02:25:18,610 --> 02:25:16,400
we're certainly not alone so what you're

3150
02:25:19,480 --> 02:25:18,620
suggesting is there's there's aliens at

3151
02:25:22,150 --> 02:25:19,490
area 51

3152
02:25:25,450 --> 02:25:22,160
oh absolutely they're around us

3153
02:25:27,070 --> 02:25:25,460
everywhere I mean you're looking you you

3154
02:25:30,040 --> 02:25:27,080
ask me like we're just and I created

3155
02:25:32,350 --> 02:25:30,050
Jesus and God didn't stop with just us I

3156
02:25:34,660 --> 02:25:32,360
mean God created the universe and it's a

3157
02:25:36,750 --> 02:25:34,670
vast you know we can't just say we're

3158
02:25:39,011 --> 02:25:36,760
ancient aliens we only can talk science

3159
02:25:42,881 --> 02:25:39,021
if you don't have religion and science

3160
02:25:46,690 --> 02:25:42,891
together you know it meshes because it's

3161
02:25:49,600 --> 02:25:46,700
a correlation I do it I mean I do my

3162
02:25:51,580 --> 02:25:49,610
work of my practical work I try to get

3163
02:25:54,280 --> 02:25:51,590
this the significance of the science

3164
02:25:56,410 --> 02:25:54,290
behind it and I know that God isn't

3165
02:25:58,421 --> 02:25:56,420
religion God is spirit and where

3166
02:26:00,310 --> 02:25:58,431
everything else but you know that's the

3167
02:26:04,000 --> 02:26:00,320
way I work and it works for me

3168
02:26:06,270 --> 02:26:04,010
so it comes from a higher source it's

3169
02:26:09,610 --> 02:26:06,280
just not something you pull out of a hat

3170
02:26:12,490 --> 02:26:09,620
what what can you tell us about the new

3171
02:26:14,740 --> 02:26:12,500
series I know that you've shot the pilot

3172
02:26:18,820 --> 02:26:14,750
when can we expect that what's going on

3173
02:26:21,131 --> 02:26:18,830
oh you know it was at the film's

3174
02:26:23,860 --> 02:26:21,141
festival in France the Khans Film

3175
02:26:26,650 --> 02:26:23,870
Festival two years in a row when it

3176
02:26:28,511 --> 02:26:26,660
first came out Oprah Winfrey had the

3177
02:26:30,790 --> 02:26:28,521
heyday I mean we just got done filming

3178
02:26:33,100 --> 02:26:30,800
it and the producers called me up and

3179
02:26:35,620 --> 02:26:33,110
said we just sold it and I say what you

3180
02:26:37,000 --> 02:26:35,630
mean we just got home and he said yeah

3181
02:26:39,011 --> 02:26:37,010
Oprah called and called an emergency

3182
02:26:40,690 --> 02:26:39,021
meeting but that was the week that she

3183
02:26:42,280 --> 02:26:40,700
had her money woes and she lost three

3184
02:26:44,350 --> 02:26:42,290
hundred eighty four million dollars and

3185
02:26:46,600 --> 02:26:44,360
she'll throw Zee O'Donnell and everybody

3186
02:26:49,390 --> 02:26:46,610
else so she said well second window you

3187
02:26:51,820 --> 02:26:49,400
if you sell it like somewhere else so uh

3188
02:26:54,040 --> 02:26:51,830
you know luck took it we wait and waited

3189
02:26:57,520 --> 02:26:54,050
and then my partner Kevin Smith who was

3190
02:26:59,830 --> 02:26:57,530
international police chief he went to

3191
02:27:02,110 --> 02:26:59,840
sleep when they never woke up so I was

3192
02:27:02,801 --> 02:27:02,120
hurt he was a good friend of mine I sat

3193
02:27:05,530 --> 02:27:02,811
on this

3194
02:27:07,841 --> 02:27:05,540
I created it and the host and executive

3195
02:27:10,600 --> 02:27:07,851
producer got the great guys from Toronto

3196
02:27:12,881 --> 02:27:10,610
who did rescue mediums on TV saint oz

3197
02:27:14,650 --> 02:27:12,891
and all that and they hired America's

3198
02:27:17,070 --> 02:27:14,660
Most Wanted film crew I told my what the

3199
02:27:23,171 --> 02:27:17,080
best home crew we can get so they did

3200
02:27:24,220 --> 02:27:23,181
tied to crime so um I sat on it and I

3201
02:27:25,960 --> 02:27:24,230
just thought yeah I'm just gonna keep

3202
02:27:28,180 --> 02:27:25,970
doing helping people and forget about

3203
02:27:29,460 --> 02:27:28,190
that because I'm too hurt by this but

3204
02:27:33,070 --> 02:27:29,470
then I found another Chief of Police

3205
02:27:36,160 --> 02:27:33,080
tough-as-nails who's been worked with

3206
02:27:40,511 --> 02:27:36,170
the children cases who've worked very

3207
02:27:42,881 --> 02:27:40,521
diligently on a lot of drug stuff as

3208
02:27:45,761 --> 02:27:42,891
well and she's from Texas and it's a

3209
02:27:48,910 --> 02:27:45,771
woman and and and you know I thought man

3210
02:27:52,841 --> 02:27:48,920
she's just marvelous she's great so here

3211
02:27:56,620 --> 02:27:52,851
we are pitched it again and I'm not

3212
02:27:57,610 --> 02:27:56,630
kidding you many networks have looked at

3213
02:27:59,830 --> 02:27:57,620
it loved it

3214
02:28:01,360 --> 02:27:59,840
want it but there's something wrong that

3215
02:28:02,830 --> 02:28:01,370
they're not taking it because I think

3216
02:28:04,690 --> 02:28:02,840
it's too expensive the shoot I don't

3217
02:28:07,330 --> 02:28:04,700
understand it or is there a huge risk

3218
02:28:09,671 --> 02:28:07,340
I'm a very risky guy I mean I I approach

3219
02:28:12,131 --> 02:28:09,681
these murderers I'm not scared

3220
02:28:13,780 --> 02:28:12,141
um I don't think they like that you know

3221
02:28:16,270 --> 02:28:13,790
I mean like I said I go up to the hole

3222
02:28:18,460 --> 02:28:16,280
recorders and other safe I don't know if

3223
02:28:20,580 --> 02:28:18,470
they don't like that there's something

3224
02:28:23,171 --> 02:28:20,590
behind it I don't know yeah always

3225
02:28:25,120 --> 02:28:23,181
liability and lawyers man that's that's

3226
02:28:27,640 --> 02:28:25,130
I can answer that for you right now

3227
02:28:30,400 --> 02:28:27,650
Robbie thank you so much for all that

3228
02:28:32,680 --> 02:28:30,410
you do what a fantastic show tonight and

3229
02:28:35,710 --> 02:28:32,690
I look forward to getting you back out

3230
02:28:37,720 --> 02:28:35,720
as soon as we can thank you so much no

3231
02:28:40,301 --> 02:28:37,730
thank you for having me Robbie

3232
02:28:42,940 --> 02:28:40,311
Thomas everybody psychic profiler now

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Robbie's links are over at Jimmy Church

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radio calm so you go straight there

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you've got to get the book the book is

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amazing it's a great read I couldn't

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02:28:55,841 --> 02:28:52,340
stop I told Robbie today right before

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02:28:58,301 --> 02:28:55,851
the show aside man I finished it and I

3239
02:29:00,490 --> 02:28:58,311
did it's great book go and check it out

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and he's got some really cool videos

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over on the site too as well so go and

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02:29:06,690 --> 02:29:05,290
do that this is fade to black

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02:29:09,720 --> 02:29:06,700
Muriel's Jimmy Church Thank You Ravi

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02:29:11,280 --> 02:29:09,730
Thomas I'll be right back and open up

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the phone lines and I'm gonna close out

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the show I'll be right back

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[Music]

3324
02:33:35,061 --> 02:33:31,970
all right welcome back fade to black

3325
02:33:37,011 --> 02:33:35,071
I'm your host shimmy Church this portion

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have to do is mention me because Alec

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02:34:00,981 --> 02:33:57,351
yeah alex is Alec Alec is a fade or not

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02:34:03,411 --> 02:34:00,991
he is everybody say thank you too Robbie

3334
02:34:07,511 --> 02:34:03,421
Thomas I'm posting this up in Twitter

3335
02:34:09,831 --> 02:34:07,521
that was an absolutely amazing

3336
02:34:12,291 --> 02:34:09,841
conversation and I'm just gonna bang

3337
02:34:15,891 --> 02:34:12,301
this out real quick before I get to the

3338
02:34:18,141 --> 02:34:15,901
phones and it it was a very special

3339
02:34:21,831 --> 02:34:18,151
conversation of the guy tonight and the

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02:34:24,501 --> 02:34:21,841
man has a genuine gift and so please

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02:34:27,921 --> 02:34:24,511
show him your appreciation right now and

3342
02:34:32,541 --> 02:34:27,931
he'll follow and and thank Robbie Thomas

3343
02:34:34,430 --> 02:34:32,551
just a great conversation now you know I

3344
02:34:37,430 --> 02:34:34,440
started off before I get to the phones

3345
02:34:43,391 --> 02:34:37,440
talking tonight about 1947

3346
02:34:46,251 --> 02:34:43,401
and we know what 1947 is to us right we

3347
02:34:49,671 --> 02:34:46,261
have all of those sightings Maury island

3348
02:34:52,611 --> 02:34:49,681
and and of course Mount Rainier and

3349
02:34:57,321 --> 02:34:52,621
Roswell and and the roads photographs

3350
02:34:59,781 --> 02:34:57,331
that happened in Phoenix and 1947 the

3351
02:35:02,680 --> 02:34:59,791
year the flying saucer right but I'm

3352
02:35:05,241 --> 02:35:02,690
watching all of these physics and

3353
02:35:06,951 --> 02:35:05,251
quantum physics and quantum mechanics

3354
02:35:11,451 --> 02:35:06,961
documentaries over the last couple of

3355
02:35:15,261 --> 02:35:11,461
weeks and over and over again you hear

3356
02:35:18,201 --> 02:35:15,271
this reference to 1947 and I'm talking

3357
02:35:19,970 --> 02:35:18,211
about videos that I've watched with with

3358
02:35:22,761 --> 02:35:19,980
different physicists and you know Brian

3359
02:35:26,661 --> 02:35:22,771
Green and and and all of these guy and

3360
02:35:30,231 --> 02:35:26,671
and they don't know I mean maybe they do

3361
02:35:34,041 --> 02:35:30,241
but they don't know what they are

3362
02:35:39,351 --> 02:35:34,051
actually saying and it goes it happens

3363
02:35:41,230 --> 02:35:39,361
over and over again why because 1947 in

3364
02:35:44,261 --> 02:35:41,240
the physics world

3365
02:35:45,940 --> 02:35:44,271
in the nuclear engineering world in the

3366
02:35:48,610 --> 02:35:45,950
quantum mechanics world

3367
02:35:50,261 --> 02:35:48,620
it was seminal for them there were so

3368
02:35:52,120 --> 02:35:50,271
many different breakthroughs and things

3369
02:35:54,100 --> 02:35:52,130
that happen in arguments that were made

3370
02:35:58,330 --> 02:35:54,110
and resolved and that's the way science

3371
02:36:03,761 --> 02:35:58,340
works and for them that year was 1947

3372
02:36:07,030 --> 02:36:03,771
it's crazy I got so out of control I

3373
02:36:08,711 --> 02:36:07,040
almost started to take notes right maybe

3374
02:36:11,650 --> 02:36:08,721
I'll go back and do that but I almost

3375
02:36:13,660 --> 02:36:11,660
started to take notes it was absolutely

3376
02:36:16,560 --> 02:36:13,670
amazing let's go to the phones hi you're

3377
02:36:23,711 --> 02:36:16,570
live i'm fade to black who's calling

3378
02:36:31,500 --> 02:36:23,721
you're live hey hey who's this hey

3379
02:36:36,131 --> 02:36:31,510
captain how are you I need you to get a

3380
02:36:40,600 --> 02:36:36,141
individual on on your radio show and his

3381
02:36:44,910 --> 02:36:40,610
name is Frank chilly actually is

3382
02:36:49,750 --> 02:36:44,920
well-known throughout the beautiful

3383
02:36:53,830 --> 02:36:49,760
community and he talked about dr.

3384
02:36:57,720 --> 02:36:53,840
strange and I think that you find them

3385
02:37:01,390 --> 02:36:57,730
very very very very instant

3386
02:37:02,580 --> 02:37:01,400
top people you probably ever have on the

3387
02:37:05,320 --> 02:37:02,590
show

3388
02:37:06,671 --> 02:37:05,330
shortly because I predict that he will

3389
02:37:10,450 --> 02:37:06,681
be so very shortly

3390
02:37:12,610 --> 02:37:10,460
Frank chilly well I know he does uh you

3391
02:37:16,511 --> 02:37:12,620
know I know the name I haven't checked

3392
02:37:18,070 --> 02:37:16,521
him out but I know he's on rents you

3393
02:37:19,961 --> 02:37:18,080
know he's over on the rents program but

3394
02:37:21,250 --> 02:37:19,971
what is it about Frank chilly that makes

3395
02:37:22,980 --> 02:37:21,260
you think that we should have him on

3396
02:37:26,140 --> 02:37:22,990
this show

3397
02:37:28,261 --> 02:37:26,150
chilly is a very interesting guy because

3398
02:37:32,770 --> 02:37:28,271
of the fact that he's very well

3399
02:37:42,690 --> 02:37:32,780
associated with dr. strange and not only

3400
02:37:53,890 --> 02:37:49,440
mr. and his name 9:00 ballot for a

3401
02:37:55,320 --> 02:37:53,900
valiant four valiant Thor Thor yes Thor

3402
02:38:07,961 --> 02:37:55,330
is

3403
02:38:09,671 --> 02:38:07,971
think that you find him very interesting

3404
02:38:11,740 --> 02:38:09,681
but what he has to say

3405
02:38:14,680 --> 02:38:11,750
Frank chilly is a very interesting guy

3406
02:38:15,490 --> 02:38:14,690
all right I'll look him up and we'll see

3407
02:38:18,640 --> 02:38:15,500
what we can do

3408
02:38:21,370 --> 02:38:18,650
all right very good thank you sir thank

3409
02:38:24,700 --> 02:38:21,380
you captain little noise in a captain's

3410
02:38:29,261 --> 02:38:24,710
line right there but thank you for that

3411
02:38:31,150 --> 02:38:29,271
Frank chili will uh will uh reach out to

3412
02:38:37,051 --> 02:38:31,160
him and see what we can do hi you're

3413
02:38:39,520 --> 02:38:37,061
live i'm fade to black who's calling yep

3414
02:38:48,970 --> 02:38:39,530
Scotty how are you buddy hey Scotty how

3415
02:38:52,511 --> 02:38:48,980
are you my friend it's all good man look

3416
02:38:57,160 --> 02:38:52,521
you know the thing is and it's actually

3417
02:39:00,370 --> 02:38:57,170
very very very simple the audience will

3418
02:39:03,580 --> 02:39:00,380
always you know give you that energy

3419
02:39:04,390 --> 02:39:03,590
that thing it's really true man it's

3420
02:39:09,850 --> 02:39:04,400
really true

3421
02:39:11,950 --> 02:39:09,860
you ever wonder how somebody like the

3422
02:39:13,810 --> 02:39:11,960
you know like Aerosmith

3423
02:39:16,301 --> 02:39:13,820
you know or the rolling can go out and

3424
02:39:18,881 --> 02:39:16,311
tour and continue to you know what man

3425
02:39:21,011 --> 02:39:18,891
the energy that you are given from the

3426
02:39:25,450 --> 02:39:21,021
audience no matter what you feel like

3427
02:39:27,820 --> 02:39:25,460
before or after it's those moments in in

3428
02:39:30,730 --> 02:39:27,830
in the moment that they give it to you

3429
02:39:34,171 --> 02:39:30,740
you know man we are exhausted we have

3430
02:39:36,520 --> 02:39:34,181
not stopped we haven't stopped right and

3431
02:39:37,810 --> 02:39:36,530
but but we made it through it at all

3432
02:39:39,520 --> 02:39:37,820
good man it's all good it's all good

3433
02:39:42,251 --> 02:39:39,530
around here so what's on your mind man

3434
02:39:44,591 --> 02:39:42,261
thank you for that by the way drilling

3435
02:39:46,120 --> 02:39:44,601
Jimmy and it'll keep you rolling and I'm

3436
02:39:47,860 --> 02:39:46,130
thankful for having you here because I

3437
02:39:49,330 --> 02:39:47,870
really love and enjoy listening to you

3438
02:39:51,370 --> 02:39:49,340
I'm sure all the pater not to you

3439
02:39:53,320 --> 02:39:51,380
I have one question for you I've always

3440
02:39:53,711 --> 02:39:53,330
wanted to ask you this not to ask you

3441
02:39:57,461 --> 02:39:53,721
this

3442
02:40:01,180 --> 02:39:57,471
generally what are your top three UFO

3443
02:40:06,970 --> 02:40:01,190
incidents my top two right oh that

3444
02:40:08,450 --> 02:40:06,980
intrigued me well the obvious is is

3445
02:40:11,210 --> 02:40:08,460
still there

3446
02:40:15,110 --> 02:40:11,220
there is something about Roswell that is

3447
02:40:16,150 --> 02:40:15,120
still just gnaws at me it's just I can't

3448
02:40:20,860 --> 02:40:16,160
let that go

3449
02:40:23,990 --> 02:40:20,870
Rendlesham I cannot let go there's

3450
02:40:25,761 --> 02:40:24,000
something there you know and I you know

3451
02:40:28,280 --> 02:40:25,771
I have personal involvement with so many

3452
02:40:32,930 --> 02:40:28,290
that are that were witnesses to that

3453
02:40:35,540 --> 02:40:32,940
case and their their description of it

3454
02:40:38,091 --> 02:40:35,550
it just makes my hair stand up you know

3455
02:40:40,430 --> 02:40:38,101
the last time we had John Burroughs on

3456
02:40:46,160 --> 02:40:40,440
the show not the last time but a couple

3457
02:40:48,920 --> 02:40:46,170
of maybe last year he I I made him go

3458
02:40:51,140 --> 02:40:48,930
through everything one more time right

3459
02:40:52,580 --> 02:40:51,150
and and the more that you do that

3460
02:40:54,320 --> 02:40:52,590
because I've had him on and we've talked

3461
02:40:56,690 --> 02:40:54,330
about the case many many times but the

3462
02:41:01,130 --> 02:40:56,700
last time he was on the show I think

3463
02:41:03,440 --> 02:41:01,140
even for him he was starting to relive

3464
02:41:06,290 --> 02:41:03,450
it and you you listen to him and you'd

3465
02:41:09,830 --> 02:41:06,300
listen to that you know what actually

3466
02:41:12,650 --> 02:41:09,840
happened there that that that's a real

3467
02:41:14,360 --> 02:41:12,660
case it's a real case of something

3468
02:41:18,190 --> 02:41:14,370
whether it's time travels from the

3469
02:41:21,440 --> 02:41:18,200
future or whether it's it's some black

3470
02:41:24,850 --> 02:41:21,450
operation project that we have going on

3471
02:41:29,780 --> 02:41:24,860
with our military a genuine you know

3472
02:41:35,900 --> 02:41:29,790
alien craft from the stars I don't know

3473
02:41:38,240 --> 02:41:35,910
but the to those guys it didn't seem

3474
02:41:41,841 --> 02:41:38,250
like their stories match well but but

3475
02:41:45,200 --> 02:41:41,851
one thing that I know is clear there was

3476
02:41:48,530 --> 02:41:45,210
a craft he saw it and it was there in

3477
02:41:51,350 --> 02:41:48,540
the woods you know and that that is it's

3478
02:41:54,470 --> 02:41:51,360
it's it's an unbelievable case so

3479
02:41:58,011 --> 02:41:54,480
there's those two now if I was gonna go

3480
02:42:02,650 --> 02:41:58,021
to a third that's where it branches out

3481
02:42:05,301 --> 02:42:02,660
a little bit that but let me say this

3482
02:42:07,880 --> 02:42:05,311
there is and there's many I mean

3483
02:42:10,670 --> 02:42:07,890
obviously Travis Walton comes to mind

3484
02:42:15,080 --> 02:42:10,680
and Betty and Barney Hill Betty and

3485
02:42:17,210 --> 02:42:15,090
Driessen and her experience are all very

3486
02:42:20,740 --> 02:42:17,220
very compelling certainly Travis's case

3487
02:42:24,730 --> 02:42:20,750
but there is one

3488
02:42:31,450 --> 02:42:24,740
photograph that I still cannot explain

3489
02:42:37,290 --> 02:42:31,460
and that's the Costa Rica UFO and yeah

3490
02:42:43,420 --> 02:42:37,300
that is a shot of there was an aircraft

3491
02:42:46,270 --> 02:42:43,430
government aircraft that was mapping the

3492
02:42:47,320 --> 02:42:46,280
coastline of Costa Rica Costa Rica so

3493
02:42:51,610 --> 02:42:47,330
they're mapping and they're

3494
02:42:54,910 --> 02:42:51,620
photographing and this photograph from

3495
02:42:57,700 --> 02:42:54,920
this craft down you know photographing

3496
02:43:04,630 --> 02:42:57,710
the coastline of Costa Rica catches a

3497
02:43:08,170 --> 02:43:04,640
flying saucer now it is not any there is

3498
02:43:12,760 --> 02:43:08,180
no disputing what is in this I'm gonna

3499
02:43:15,670 --> 02:43:12,770
I'm gonna Costa Rica UFO I'm just gonna

3500
02:43:17,290 --> 02:43:15,680
punch this in let me go to images and

3501
02:43:23,230 --> 02:43:17,300
let's see if yeah here it is right here

3502
02:43:27,430 --> 02:43:23,240
now somebody explain to me this image I

3503
02:43:31,540 --> 02:43:27,440
mean this image cannot be disputed I

3504
02:43:33,310 --> 02:43:31,550
don't care who who wants to say what but

3505
02:43:38,170 --> 02:43:33,320
I'm gonna post this up in Twitter right

3506
02:43:39,730 --> 02:43:38,180
now and and let's see here and I'll

3507
02:43:42,580 --> 02:43:39,740
leave it up I'll leave it up to

3508
02:43:47,140 --> 02:43:42,590
everybody else when you look at this the

3509
02:43:54,550 --> 02:43:47,150
coast if you like it how I talk slowly

3510
02:43:56,800 --> 02:43:54,560
when I'm typing because no I'm Jimmy I

3511
02:43:59,530 --> 02:43:56,810
got I got two of yours right Roz won't

3512
02:44:02,140 --> 02:43:59,540
want it but I thought about this okay

3513
02:44:05,500 --> 02:44:02,150
okay now now now see but see that's the

3514
02:44:07,660 --> 02:44:05,510
thing you know what do you do what do

3515
02:44:11,590 --> 02:44:07,670
you do with all of this because you

3516
02:44:16,840 --> 02:44:11,600
start to everybody knows you know how I

3517
02:44:21,190 --> 02:44:16,850
feel about oh man

3518
02:44:24,190 --> 02:44:21,200
where did Ice Man I didn't save it where

3519
02:44:25,900 --> 02:44:24,200
I thought I saved it okay I got you

3520
02:44:30,220 --> 02:44:25,910
twisted I'm sorry okay here it is

3521
02:44:32,410 --> 02:44:30,230
okay mark Tarana just posted it okay so

3522
02:44:33,720 --> 02:44:32,420
we can forget about that now you look at

3523
02:44:38,610 --> 02:44:33,730
that image

3524
02:44:43,140 --> 02:44:38,620
look at that now somebody explained to

3525
02:44:45,120 --> 02:44:43,150
me that what do you want to tell me what

3526
02:44:49,801 --> 02:44:45,130
this is now this is a government

3527
02:44:56,520 --> 02:44:49,811
photograph okay you know I mean I'm

3528
02:45:03,091 --> 02:44:56,530
sorry but that's a flying saucer bad and

3529
02:45:05,280 --> 02:45:03,101
and it's big its gnarly its metal this I

3530
02:45:07,080 --> 02:45:05,290
think the plain you can go and read the

3531
02:45:10,830 --> 02:45:07,090
specifics of this case but I think that

3532
02:45:12,650 --> 02:45:10,840
plane was flying it like 40,000 feet you

3533
02:45:18,270 --> 02:45:12,660
know it's photographing the coastline

3534
02:45:22,110 --> 02:45:18,280
and and so that is in its it's in focus

3535
02:45:24,210 --> 02:45:22,120
so is this at 30,000 feet you know and

3536
02:45:26,761 --> 02:45:24,220
if it is you know how big is it it's

3537
02:45:29,250 --> 02:45:26,771
absolutely massive I don't care if it's

3538
02:45:32,761 --> 02:45:29,260
close to the craft the farther away it

3539
02:45:36,870 --> 02:45:32,771
is the bigger it is okay you know what I

3540
02:45:40,710 --> 02:45:36,880
mean so well but you look at that now

3541
02:45:45,091 --> 02:45:40,720
you just brought up you know when we

3542
02:45:48,780 --> 02:45:45,101
talk about Westborough in in Australia

3543
02:45:52,910 --> 02:45:48,790
that to me is one of the most compelling

3544
02:45:58,560 --> 02:45:52,920
cases out there hundreds of eyewitnesses

3545
02:46:01,650 --> 02:45:58,570
the the Jesse Zamora case in in Socorro

3546
02:46:04,350 --> 02:46:01,660
New Mexico is an absolutely fascinating

3547
02:46:06,570 --> 02:46:04,360
case on there's other things about that

3548
02:46:09,810 --> 02:46:06,580
case that back up the evidence there

3549
02:46:11,671 --> 02:46:09,820
were other eyewitnesses there was the

3550
02:46:12,900 --> 02:46:11,681
family that was at the gas station that

3551
02:46:16,591 --> 02:46:12,910
saw what they saw

3552
02:46:18,540 --> 02:46:16,601
you know the egg shaped UFO there are a

3553
02:46:22,560 --> 02:46:18,550
couple of photographs that are out there

3554
02:46:26,040 --> 02:46:22,570
that show something going on in the

3555
02:46:28,140 --> 02:46:26,050
background that you can see so there's

3556
02:46:31,230 --> 02:46:28,150
there's all of that so the Jesse Zamora

3557
02:46:36,120 --> 02:46:31,240
case is is really really fascinating

3558
02:46:38,190 --> 02:46:36,130
what else did you mention I was Roswell

3559
02:46:41,440 --> 02:46:38,200
the bit water and it's a coral incident

3560
02:46:45,070 --> 02:46:41,450
and I didn't miss anything else

3561
02:46:48,969 --> 02:46:45,080
you mentioned Westboro Australia now

3562
02:46:52,870 --> 02:46:48,979
there's also the case again fascinating

3563
02:46:57,820 --> 02:46:52,880
case in in Africa again involving

3564
02:47:01,929 --> 02:46:57,830
students in an elementary school yeah

3565
02:47:05,610 --> 02:47:01,939
yeah it landed and the somebody got off

3566
02:47:08,590 --> 02:47:05,620
of it and the kids all described it I

3567
02:47:12,429 --> 02:47:08,600
forget you know who's working on this

3568
02:47:15,250 --> 02:47:12,439
right now James Fox is got his film 701

3569
02:47:17,650 --> 02:47:15,260
which covers this case and he interviews

3570
02:47:21,330 --> 02:47:17,660
a bunch of the students that are now

3571
02:47:26,230 --> 02:47:21,340
adults and so there's there's that case

3572
02:47:28,860 --> 02:47:26,240
again just fascinating multiple

3573
02:47:33,310 --> 02:47:28,870
witnesses it involves a school just like

3574
02:47:35,050 --> 02:47:33,320
Australia and I you know it's it's cases

3575
02:47:38,920 --> 02:47:35,060
like this I don't know what to do with

3576
02:47:40,870 --> 02:47:38,930
you know in that we take him at face

3577
02:47:43,480 --> 02:47:40,880
values what I'm saying we have to take

3578
02:47:47,290 --> 02:47:43,490
him at face value and understand that we

3579
02:47:52,030 --> 02:47:47,300
have multiple witnesses here and when

3580
02:47:54,340 --> 02:47:52,040
you have 10 15 20 30 children all in a

3581
02:47:57,070 --> 02:47:54,350
row telling the same story telling the

3582
02:47:59,380 --> 02:47:57,080
same story again as adults you have the

3583
02:48:00,790 --> 02:47:59,390
teachers and and the other adults that

3584
02:48:04,570 --> 02:48:00,800
were there too as well

3585
02:48:07,780 --> 02:48:04,580
but but but the children's description

3586
02:48:10,120 --> 02:48:07,790
and drawings that they did and but not

3587
02:48:13,390 --> 02:48:10,130
only with Australia or with Africa but

3588
02:48:17,650 --> 02:48:13,400
with Australia too as well that

3589
02:48:19,210 --> 02:48:17,660
documentary of Westborough that you can

3590
02:48:22,570 --> 02:48:19,220
find on the net I think it's called

3591
02:48:24,850 --> 02:48:22,580
Westborough 1967 I could be wrong but

3592
02:48:27,670 --> 02:48:24,860
just it's it's mind-blowing

3593
02:48:30,760 --> 02:48:27,680
you know and and there's there's more

3594
02:48:34,030 --> 02:48:30,770
out there I could sit here and you know

3595
02:48:36,760 --> 02:48:34,040
as Cape Cape Girardeau that is that's a

3596
02:48:41,340 --> 02:48:36,770
case that that's the one of the first

3597
02:48:44,170 --> 02:48:41,350
crass retrievals that is on record and

3598
02:48:45,760 --> 02:48:44,180
that happened before Roswell that

3599
02:48:49,210 --> 02:48:45,770
happened during World War two and that's

3600
02:48:52,660 --> 02:48:49,220
that's a case that that still to this

3601
02:48:54,770 --> 02:48:52,670
day is is perplexing I don't know what

3602
02:48:59,180 --> 02:48:54,780
to do with it there is

3603
02:49:00,890 --> 02:48:59,190
also the famous oh man you know it's

3604
02:49:06,110 --> 02:49:00,900
late I've just been on the air for three

3605
02:49:11,150 --> 02:49:06,120
hours I'm a little tired trying to think

3606
02:49:15,051 --> 02:49:11,160
though the case of in New Jersey at at

3607
02:49:20,091 --> 02:49:15,061
at the reservoir there with the humanoid

3608
02:49:22,280 --> 02:49:20,101
robot guy again it's just a Farmingdale

3609
02:49:29,870 --> 02:49:22,290
is that it man

3610
02:49:32,030 --> 02:49:29,880
see normally I would which one something

3611
02:49:34,430 --> 02:49:32,040
that happened or the Roswell that crash

3612
02:49:36,501 --> 02:49:34,440
in the Julie that's Cape Gerardo that's

3613
02:49:38,990 --> 02:49:36,511
what I was just talking about yeah yes

3614
02:49:39,921 --> 02:49:39,000
you look I'm sorry about that yeah yeah

3615
02:49:44,211 --> 02:49:39,931
absolutely

3616
02:49:48,320 --> 02:49:44,221
you know after stuff all these incidents

3617
02:49:49,820 --> 02:49:48,330
and nothing here that's appeared to

3618
02:49:52,040 --> 02:49:49,830
anyone that they never stepped out and

3619
02:49:54,171 --> 02:49:52,050
started talking money what is it that

3620
02:49:55,540 --> 02:49:54,181
they're hiding why this is my big

3621
02:49:58,131 --> 02:49:55,550
question with everything it's like

3622
02:50:01,881 --> 02:49:58,141
artists sneaking around in the

3623
02:50:05,450 --> 02:50:01,891
abductions the mutilations that can't be

3624
02:50:12,350 --> 02:50:05,460
good for us I don't know you know I

3625
02:50:15,671 --> 02:50:12,360
don't know the the thing that that that

3626
02:50:20,870 --> 02:50:15,681
I find most disturbing with it is that

3627
02:50:22,430 --> 02:50:20,880
you have company coming over to your

3628
02:50:25,190 --> 02:50:22,440
house and you're gonna have a cookout in

3629
02:50:29,751 --> 02:50:25,200
the backyard dude you go out and spray

3630
02:50:32,780 --> 02:50:29,761
for bugs that's what you do are you kind

3631
02:50:36,320 --> 02:50:32,790
are you concerned with the bugs family

3632
02:50:39,290 --> 02:50:36,330
that's back at the nest right the little

3633
02:50:44,001 --> 02:50:39,300
baby bugs that aren't gonna have mom and

3634
02:50:47,240 --> 02:50:44,011
dad come home and they're alone you know

3635
02:50:50,390 --> 02:50:47,250
and that's the thing when you know we

3636
02:50:52,870 --> 02:50:50,400
don't have any issues with going out and

3637
02:50:55,730 --> 02:50:52,880
collecting samples and going down to

3638
02:50:57,470 --> 02:50:55,740
some tropical island and trying to find

3639
02:50:59,660 --> 02:50:57,480
a new species or going into the

3640
02:51:02,450 --> 02:50:59,670
rainforest in Brazil and looking for

3641
02:51:04,671 --> 02:51:02,460
things and and capturing them and

3642
02:51:06,801 --> 02:51:04,681
putting them in a bag or a cage and

3643
02:51:07,969 --> 02:51:06,811
going back and studying them we don't

3644
02:51:12,439 --> 02:51:07,979
care

3645
02:51:14,899 --> 02:51:12,449
that's what we do and if we look when we

3646
02:51:18,739 --> 02:51:14,909
if we would have found something alive

3647
02:51:21,139 --> 02:51:18,749
crawling around on rocks on the moon we

3648
02:51:22,849 --> 02:51:21,149
would have bagged and tagged it you know

3649
02:51:25,660 --> 02:51:22,859
and it's the same thing with Mars and

3650
02:51:29,269 --> 02:51:25,670
and if we found some kind of alien

3651
02:51:31,519 --> 02:51:29,279
life-form walking around or that's it

3652
02:51:33,529 --> 02:51:31,529
you know we would take it and bring it

3653
02:51:36,889 --> 02:51:33,539
back home with us it's the same thing

3654
02:51:39,859 --> 02:51:36,899
and it's crazy it's so much we're

3655
02:51:43,340 --> 02:51:39,869
getting so much more in frequency now

3656
02:51:47,479 --> 02:51:43,350
yeah I know I know I know I know like I

3657
02:51:50,300 --> 02:51:47,489
said it's what we would do you know it's

3658
02:51:53,479 --> 02:51:50,310
what we would do and so why are we so

3659
02:51:56,149 --> 02:51:53,489
upset about it you know and if there are

3660
02:51:57,889 --> 02:51:56,159
aliens out there that there are that are

3661
02:52:00,139 --> 02:51:57,899
visiting us but if there are aliens out

3662
02:52:02,510 --> 02:52:00,149
there that are that are grabbing us and

3663
02:52:04,729 --> 02:52:02,520
taking us you know imagine what the

3664
02:52:08,989 --> 02:52:04,739
conversation is back on the planet right

3665
02:52:12,019 --> 02:52:08,999
man we found this planet man full of

3666
02:52:14,269 --> 02:52:12,029
life let's go back and grab some more we

3667
02:52:19,040 --> 02:52:14,279
got to study they you know they have a

3668
02:52:21,170 --> 02:52:19,050
they have a have this way of trying to

3669
02:52:23,719 --> 02:52:21,180
communicate and they're trying to speak

3670
02:52:26,450 --> 02:52:23,729
they wear clothes they're it's all

3671
02:52:31,899 --> 02:52:26,460
primitive you know but you know they

3672
02:52:35,330 --> 02:52:31,909
don't fly yet you know whatever you know

3673
02:52:38,809 --> 02:52:35,340
just think about that you know because

3674
02:52:41,239 --> 02:52:38,819
that's what we would say we found a

3675
02:52:43,910 --> 02:52:41,249
planet with primitive life-forms on it

3676
02:52:46,760 --> 02:52:43,920
you know we would bag and tag and bring

3677
02:52:51,460 --> 02:52:46,770
it back here to earth and and parade

3678
02:52:54,170 --> 02:52:51,470
them around on CNN and Fox News and and

3679
02:52:58,840 --> 02:52:54,180
you know that's that's that's my take

3680
02:53:02,330 --> 02:52:58,850
hey Scottie I think something deeper but

3681
02:53:05,330 --> 02:53:02,340
yeah but Scottie I always go I always go

3682
02:53:08,540 --> 02:53:05,340
with the way we think you know what's

3683
02:53:13,370 --> 02:53:08,550
how do we think and and what do we find

3684
02:53:17,840 --> 02:53:13,380
okay we have the LA Zoo we're okay with

3685
02:53:19,519 --> 02:53:17,850
that we're okay with the LA Zoo Scottie

3686
02:53:21,620 --> 02:53:19,529
have a great night my friend thank you

3687
02:53:24,480 --> 02:53:21,630
so much yeah

3688
02:53:26,640 --> 02:53:24,490
Thank You Scotty Scotty's the very best

3689
02:53:27,210 --> 02:53:26,650
hi your life on fade to black who's

3690
02:53:30,330 --> 02:53:27,220
calling

3691
02:53:32,310 --> 02:53:30,340
hey Jimmy this is Bill skywatcher of kg

3692
02:53:34,650 --> 02:53:32,320
all right I hate Bill skywatcher of K

3693
02:53:36,420 --> 02:53:34,660
GRA how are you what's happening I

3694
02:53:38,580 --> 02:53:36,430
actually have a question but before I

3695
02:53:40,740 --> 02:53:38,590
get to that you are aware that Larry

3696
02:53:44,160 --> 02:53:40,750
Warren has a new film coming out capable

3697
02:53:46,800 --> 02:53:44,170
green I'm wondering if you would think

3698
02:53:49,620 --> 02:53:46,810
about getting Adrian businnes ax to get

3699
02:53:51,450 --> 02:53:49,630
his take about this film and maybe to

3700
02:53:54,030 --> 02:53:51,460
clarify a little bit the little gray

3701
02:53:56,580 --> 02:53:54,040
area about exactly how this whole

3702
02:53:59,160 --> 02:53:56,590
Rendlesham incident occurred especially

3703
02:54:02,520 --> 02:53:59,170
when we hear that Adrian may have been

3704
02:54:05,730 --> 02:54:02,530
the key player as far as Larry's whole

3705
02:54:07,620 --> 02:54:05,740
interpretation of what happened yeah and

3706
02:54:11,850 --> 02:54:07,630
Bill and thank you for that but I think

3707
02:54:16,680 --> 02:54:11,860
I think Linda and John had Adrian on

3708
02:54:18,120 --> 02:54:16,690
their show phenomenon back that was a

3709
02:54:19,650 --> 02:54:18,130
while back he was supposed to be on last

3710
02:54:21,510 --> 02:54:19,660
week but I think last money had

3711
02:54:23,820 --> 02:54:21,520
something to do right right I would love

3712
02:54:26,790 --> 02:54:23,830
to have Adrian on this show but I'll be

3713
02:54:29,400 --> 02:54:26,800
straight with you that's that's that's

3714
02:54:33,120 --> 02:54:29,410
Jon I think Jon would handle it the best

3715
02:54:35,340 --> 02:54:33,130
and and and I'm just being straight you

3716
02:54:38,250 --> 02:54:35,350
know that's that's John's thing and they

3717
02:54:41,520 --> 02:54:38,260
know each other and they go back and

3718
02:54:43,220 --> 02:54:41,530
certainly Linda's the right person ask

3719
02:54:45,330 --> 02:54:43,230
questions would I would I like

3720
02:54:47,220 --> 02:54:45,340
absolutely I would love Adrian bestows

3721
02:54:51,270 --> 02:54:47,230
on this show do you know how many times

3722
02:54:54,480 --> 02:54:51,280
his name has come up on this program not

3723
02:54:56,550 --> 02:54:54,490
only not only with I mean Larry's

3724
02:54:58,440 --> 02:54:56,560
brought Adrian up on this show and and

3725
02:55:01,410 --> 02:54:58,450
Jon has brought Adrian up on the show

3726
02:55:04,530 --> 02:55:01,420
and Penniston has brought him up on the

3727
02:55:06,270 --> 02:55:04,540
show I think died did I have halt on but

3728
02:55:08,880 --> 02:55:06,280
I ever have I don't know if I had halt

3729
02:55:12,390 --> 02:55:08,890
on the show or not maybe I did I can't

3730
02:55:14,580 --> 02:55:12,400
remember but nonetheless I've certainly

3731
02:55:17,250 --> 02:55:14,590
talked to Charles halt off the air about

3732
02:55:19,020 --> 02:55:17,260
this tenza and and all of the Cask I

3733
02:55:21,030 --> 02:55:19,030
can't remember somebody tell me did I

3734
02:55:24,390 --> 02:55:21,040
Rab Charles halt on the show you know

3735
02:55:25,440 --> 02:55:24,400
what I'm getting old bill another quick

3736
02:55:27,570 --> 02:55:25,450
question I know you're gonna get ready

3737
02:55:28,770 --> 02:55:27,580
to sign off but a couple of weeks ago

3738
02:55:30,840 --> 02:55:28,780
you mentioned that you had a

3739
02:55:32,850 --> 02:55:30,850
conversation with Tom DeLonge mm-hmm and

3740
02:55:34,800 --> 02:55:32,860
maybe that another video would be coming

3741
02:55:35,220 --> 02:55:34,810
now Luis Alessandro is going to be

3742
02:55:37,711 --> 02:55:35,230
speaking

3743
02:55:40,140 --> 02:55:37,721
at the International UFO Congress do you

3744
02:55:42,091 --> 02:55:40,150
think that maybe it's all about timing

3745
02:55:44,400 --> 02:55:42,101
though release the video knowing that

3746
02:55:46,381 --> 02:55:44,410
he's gonna be going out and speaking at

3747
02:55:48,180 --> 02:55:46,391
these conferences to promote the video

3748
02:55:48,961 --> 02:55:48,190
you think it's all about timing what do

3749
02:55:52,530 --> 02:55:48,971
you think it's gonna happen

3750
02:55:56,011 --> 02:55:52,540
no I don't think I don't think Tom is

3751
02:56:01,640 --> 02:55:56,021
looking at it like that like there's you

3752
02:56:03,930 --> 02:56:01,650
know I think Elizondo is going to appear

3753
02:56:06,150 --> 02:56:03,940
exactly he's not appearing there he's

3754
02:56:08,761 --> 02:56:06,160
they're gonna show a video they're gonna

3755
02:56:11,371 --> 02:56:08,771
tape something and then they're gonna

3756
02:56:17,011 --> 02:56:11,381
play the video at the International UFO

3757
02:56:18,871 --> 02:56:17,021
Congress but tying a a video release was

3758
02:56:22,801 --> 02:56:18,881
something like that I think is would be

3759
02:56:25,140 --> 02:56:22,811
a shame 'less self-promotion I think

3760
02:56:27,301 --> 02:56:25,150
that I don't think that DeLong would

3761
02:56:28,970 --> 02:56:27,311
would do that I think he's he's got you

3762
02:56:31,530 --> 02:56:28,980
know a higher character than that

3763
02:56:32,791 --> 02:56:31,540
certainly there would be too many people

3764
02:56:33,961 --> 02:56:32,801
out there going okay now you're really

3765
02:56:36,780 --> 02:56:33,971
in it for the money

3766
02:56:39,421 --> 02:56:36,790
and I you know that that's that's what

3767
02:56:42,511 --> 02:56:39,431
that would do I think that DeLong is

3768
02:56:46,381 --> 02:56:42,521
going to release yeah he told me he's

3769
02:56:49,560 --> 02:56:46,391
got some more videos that that are

3770
02:56:51,900 --> 02:56:49,570
getting ready to go with all of those

3771
02:56:53,461 --> 02:56:51,910
videos but no matter what you have just

3772
02:56:55,980 --> 02:56:53,471
like he did with the gun camera footage

3773
02:56:57,331 --> 02:56:55,990
from the fa-18 you have to have the

3774
02:56:58,860 --> 02:56:57,341
provenance you have to have the

3775
02:57:00,871 --> 02:56:58,870
witnesses you have to have the people

3776
02:57:03,780 --> 02:57:00,881
that are involved and it's all got to

3777
02:57:06,150 --> 02:57:03,790
happen and to make sure that the video

3778
02:57:08,341 --> 02:57:06,160
stands up to the scrutiny that is going

3779
02:57:10,770 --> 02:57:08,351
to be applied to it just like what

3780
02:57:13,081 --> 02:57:10,780
happened with the fa-18 he brings out

3781
02:57:15,751 --> 02:57:13,091
the fa-18 video bill he brings out the

3782
02:57:19,680 --> 02:57:15,761
pilot right he brings out Louise

3783
02:57:21,720 --> 02:57:19,690
Elizondo who helped acquire it he had

3784
02:57:26,131 --> 02:57:21,730
everything that was backing this up the

3785
02:57:29,761 --> 02:57:26,141
Pentagon programs and and everything was

3786
02:57:31,680 --> 02:57:29,771
in play and still there were those out

3787
02:57:33,930 --> 02:57:31,690
there that wanted to say that the video

3788
02:57:36,091 --> 02:57:33,940
wasn't real man it's it's not it's not

3789
02:57:38,820 --> 02:57:36,101
an actual this it's not that this is

3790
02:57:41,190 --> 02:57:38,830
photoshopped this is CGI this is after

3791
02:57:43,770 --> 02:57:41,200
it's not real you know it's just like no

3792
02:57:46,171 --> 02:57:43,780
matter what you do you're gonna have

3793
02:57:48,899 --> 02:57:46,181
those critics come out so our language I

3794
02:57:51,059 --> 02:57:48,909
am sure that a Tom is listening to

3795
02:57:53,399 --> 02:57:51,069
program that's number one and no we did

3796
02:57:56,369 --> 02:57:53,409
not staged this everybody but he's

3797
02:57:59,340 --> 02:57:56,379
listening to this and he knows that you

3798
02:58:01,679 --> 02:57:59,350
you you cannot you cannot satisfy

3799
02:58:05,689 --> 02:58:01,689
everybody but what you have to make sure

3800
02:58:09,059 --> 02:58:05,699
of in advance that everything is correct

3801
02:58:12,510 --> 02:58:09,069
because today the the position that

3802
02:58:15,479 --> 02:58:12,520
Thomas put him in everybody is going to

3803
02:58:18,149 --> 02:58:15,489
vet him not only in the video and and

3804
02:58:20,999 --> 02:58:18,159
the witnesses and not only inside of our

3805
02:58:25,859 --> 02:58:21,009
community but that includes Fox and CNN

3806
02:58:28,919 --> 02:58:25,869
and BBC and RT and MSNBC and ABC CBS

3807
02:58:31,559 --> 02:58:28,929
everybody that is going to get involved

3808
02:58:34,559 --> 02:58:31,569
with this next round they are going to

3809
02:58:36,419 --> 02:58:34,569
vet all sources so you just can't do

3810
02:58:37,919 --> 02:58:36,429
this willy-nilly it's just not like we

3811
02:58:40,349 --> 02:58:37,929
got this new video let's pop it out

3812
02:58:42,569 --> 02:58:40,359
there on YouTube and see what happens no

3813
02:58:45,300 --> 02:58:42,579
and quickly before I know cuz you got

3814
02:58:46,769 --> 02:58:45,310
you're running out of time I'm 2070 past

3815
02:58:48,329 --> 02:58:46,779
alright when everything that happened

3816
02:58:50,340 --> 02:58:48,339
today with the memo and it looks like

3817
02:58:52,260 --> 02:58:50,350
this it's imploding maybe we are closer

3818
02:58:53,159 --> 02:58:52,270
to disclosure with all everything that's

3819
02:58:55,349 --> 02:58:53,169
going on with the intelligence

3820
02:58:57,269 --> 02:58:55,359
organization and you can bet that when

3821
02:58:58,800 --> 02:58:57,279
you're ready to break out the news we

3822
02:59:01,590 --> 02:58:58,810
will be ready at Kay Joey to put you on

3823
02:59:03,779 --> 02:59:01,600
the egg thank you so much bill have a

3824
02:59:06,899 --> 02:59:03,789
good night YouTube bill Skywalker right

3825
02:59:09,809 --> 02:59:06,909
there this is fade to black and and bill

3826
02:59:13,260 --> 02:59:09,819
the producer over there at kg RA assured

3827
02:59:14,669 --> 02:59:13,270
us that we were going to run over so let

3828
02:59:17,309 --> 02:59:14,679
me get to the credits thank you to

3829
02:59:18,840 --> 02:59:17,319
Robbie Thomas and everybody that called

3830
02:59:21,419 --> 02:59:18,850
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3831
02:59:23,760 --> 02:59:21,429
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3832
02:59:25,529 --> 02:59:23,770
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3833
02:59:28,139 --> 02:59:25,539
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3834
02:59:30,239 --> 02:59:28,149
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3835
02:59:32,219 --> 02:59:30,249
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3836
02:59:33,840 --> 02:59:32,229
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3837
02:59:36,719 --> 02:59:33,850
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3838
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3840
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3844
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3846
02:59:56,671 --> 02:59:53,229
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3847
02:59:59,540 --> 02:59:56,681
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3848
03:00:07,670 --> 02:59:59,550
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